HRC's got nothing to gloat about here.

[Ken Burch]

She blew what should have been an unloseable thirty-point lead in Iowa in three months...scoring a coin-flip "win" at best...even with the full backing of Tom Harkin.

She and her supporters aren't entitled to throw shade at anybody today.

[morningfog]

1. Team Clinton Hubris does not do humility.

That why they lose.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Seriously, Hillary got her comeuppance... with more to come. Go Bernie!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[KittyWampus]

70. They didn't lose. And Sanders will never catch up in delegates.

[roguevalley]

85. said no one ever

[DanTex]

2. No gloating. Just a victory in one of the most demographically pro-Bernie states in the nation.

[virtualobserver]

3. Hillary has won the coin toss, and has elected to deceive....and call it a win

[DanTex]

5. Actually, what she won was the caucus.

[virtualobserver]

6. by coin toss

[DanTex]

8. By aggregating votes across the state of Iowa. According to the pre-determined rules.

Obviously no self-respecting Bernie fan will take this loss without making a bunch of excuses. But at the end of the day, Hillary won.

[virtualobserver]

10. by coin toss......."winning" something by random chance....

is like being proud of winning the lottery....what an accomplishment!

[DanTex]

14. There's always random chance... who's car breaks down, who gets there 10 minutes late.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

9. *six* coin tosses

[virtualobserver]

13. that is true....which makes it even more impressive...a coin toss "landslide"!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

16. When they told us, "The smart money is for Hillary" little did we suspect this is what they meant.

[CajunBlazer]

22. Yep, a win is a win is a win

[Nuclear Unicorn]

24. Except when it's just dumb luck that deepens an already bad schism.

[thereismore]

56. Hillary wins the money vote. nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Only Hillary would declare that a victory... which tells you everything you need to know about her dishonesty...

At least Bernie was honest enough to call it a tie.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[rhett o rick]

27. Yes Sen Sanders, to win will have to get more than the margin of manipulation. Go ahead and gloat.

We have the momentum and it will overcome your Citizens United and Corp-Media advantage.

[DanTex]

42. Conspiracy!

[rhett o rick]

45. The power of unlimited financial resources can do wonders, but sooner or later the People

will overthrow the corrupt culture of Big Money in government.

[morningfog]

38. Oh yeah, Hillary was the underdog there, too FUCKING funny.

[DanTex]

43. The third most white-liberal Democratic electorate in the country, after VT and NH.

[morningfog]

44. Hillary was the UNDERDOG! Sanders had this in the BAG and BLEW IT!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

He was up 30 points in Nov/Dec and squandered it! Wait.

[DanTex]

47. However you want to spin it. In the end Hillary won, and there aren't too many more white-liberal

states left.

[morningfog]

48. Well, it hasn't been officially declared. And the final delegate tally for Iowa is a long way off.

Hey, crow all you want now, as you did before Iowa. There is plenty to eat.

[Herman4747]

71. With Registered Republicans outnumbering registered Democrats,

A Republican governor, and a Republican state house, Iowa is definitely on the right-wing side of things.
Of course, that should favor Hillary.

[DanTex]

73. The Iowa Democratic electorate is white and liberal, compared to Democrats nationwide.

The state itself leans red, but Republicans don't vote in the Democratic caucus.

[Herman4747]

75. Proof? Please Prove that the Democrats of Iowa...

...are more "liberal" than the Democrats elsewhere.

Can you do that, buddy???

I don't think you can. But go on, I DARE YOU.

[DanTex]

76. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511121038

[Herman4747]

81. You'll have to do better...

...any chart that gives North Carolina a 62 for "liberal" but gives New York only a 57 is hardly credible.

[DanTex]

82. It's based on primary exit polls.

[geardaddy]

74. +1 million n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

77. given how hillarians are changing their tune,

especially so radically, I bet that the book of songs is taking a beating as they search for a new one.

[DanTex]

78. Huge change of tune.

From "Hillary's going to win the nomination" to "Hillary's going to win the nomination."

[ChairmanAgnostic]

79. I sincerely hope not.

She would be a terrible president.

[Tarc]

4. This is the Sanders spin, yes

I'm fine with calling it a tie and moving on to states that actually matter.

[morningfog]

39. I agree, it's a tie, really. But, all states matter.

Every voter matters. I don't buy that any one state matters more than another. Including Iowa.

[rhett o rick]

49. What a rotten thing to say to Iowans. nm

[Tarc]

51. Then perhaps we should stop letting white farmers in flyover country

think they are the bellweather of the nation in a procedure that isn't even an actual vote. Why should there be coin tosses? Why should O'Malley's voters be told "sorry, not viable!" and instructed to support another candidate?

Both the caucus system and the rigid state voting order (I am from NH and would have no qualms about losing our #2 spot) are antiquated throwbacks that need to be scrapped.

[libdem4life]

55. On this, I agree. They say it is not prone to "purchase" So 90 Precinct Leaders fail

to show up, and they can't get a correct vote on Polk County.

There are cheating problems with every form...lever, checking the box, on a computer, but none are immune to the ultimate political show in America...who cheated and how.

At least we don't have to hear the Trump crow. Cruz ... wince ... will have to do.

[book_worm]

7. Bernie deserves credit for a strong race in Iowa, but

a win is a win and if all the votes are counted and Hillary got more votes then she won. I consider that Iowa is a neutral state. It is a state where both Hillary and Bernie had a potential of doing well. 1) as a caucus state Hillary as the front-runner should have had a clear organizational edge 2) It is a state which has a high level of students and white liberals--both categories that favor Bernie.

The one thing that Iowa did for Bernie is that by coming so close to winning it will solidify his large lead in NH, a neighboring state to Vermont, and a state where he is well liked and will win easily. I don't think that Hillary will be able to take a 0.3 victory in Iowa and suddenly turn NH around--though in 2008 she did manage to take a third place showing in Iowa and overcome Obama in the NH polls to win--I don't see that happening this time.

Now Clinton supporters and the establishment would really get nervous if Bernie came this close or won in a state like South Carolina. To be the nominee he is going to have to demonstrate that he can take some of those southern states which have 1) more African-American voters as opposed to lily white voters and 2) perhaps somewhat less liberal democrats. He will also have to demonstrate he can win some of the big Industrial states like PA, NJ, OH, IL, MI.

If he can do that he will truly have thrown Team Hillary off their stride and could perhaps even win the nomination. But a near-win in Iowa and an expected win in a neighboring state like NH won't do it.

[KingCharlemagne]

12. She blew a 30-point lead. Un-friggin'-real incompetence in her campaign staff. - nt

[book_worm]

21. Bernie has real appeal

he deserves credit. Iowa was a tailored made state for him--it often has backed people who bucked the establishment: McGovern, Carter in '76 (he was not the establishment candidate when he first ran), Obama. He deserves credit for coming so close.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. "Heads" should roll after that Hillary campaign debacle... or is it "tails"?

They should flip a loaded coin and decide.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[KingCharlemagne]

37. I got massive shit yesterday when I suggested it

would be like The Night of Long Knives in Camp Weathervane today. Methinks quite a few resumes are quietly making the rounds this morning

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

41. Saw that... and you know it! Not gonna do Hillary much good... her ship is taking on water and will soon sink.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[pangaia]

53. I will bet that woman is spitting flame right now.

[thereismore]

57. You said "that woman."

[pangaia]

60. Oh, jeeze, if you are thinking what I am NOW thinking I said,

I never thought of that until you told me I said it.

[rhett o rick]

26. I think calling people "lily white" is offensive.

[onecaliberal]

28. Not all counted.

All the votes are NOT counted. 5% outstanding.

[pangaia]

52. tell me something.

2) "It is a state which has a high level of students and white liberals--both categories that favor Bernie. "

Now, WHY would these people prefer Sanders to Clinton. huh?

[Old Codger]

86. Lucking out

On coin tosses is hard to be called anything that resembles a "win".She lost big time in the real world that exists outside of her bubble..

[HereSince1628]

11. I'd bet there's no damned gloating in the Clinton campaign

She had all the name recognition... got stuck in a tie.
She began with a 55% lead over Sanders... got stuck in a tie.
She controlled all the traditional revenue streams which provided too much money to challenge... got stuck in a tie.
She had the best senior staff money could buy...got stuck in a tie.
She controlled the party infrastructure... got stuck in a tie.
She had the big media endorsements...got stuck in a tie.
She had the pundit's belief she'd dominate... got stuck in a tie.
She dominated all dem coverage by cable news...got stuck in a tie
She mastered at least 5 American dialects/speech patterns...got stuck in a tie
She adopted the popular parts of her opponents messages...got stuck in a tie.
She spent most of a decade planning a decisive win in Iowa...got stuck in a tie.
She spent a life-time earning the best resume, ever...got stuck in a tie.
She dominated the coin-tosses... got stuck in a tie.

Worst of all, she actually has a lead in an historically close primary, and that's a W gaddamit!... and all the anti-Clinton people see it as stuck in a tie! Please note, if you see this as a tie you are anti-Clinton

[Nuclear Unicorn]

19. ouch

I felt that all the way over here.

[Ken Burch]

31. Or, as "Afroman" would put it:

"Because she got tied,
Because she got tied,
Because she got ti-ed".

[Nedsdag]

58. +10,000,000 nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

67. Nailed it!

[Depaysement]

15. They will anyway

She had the backing of Harkin and almost every other Democratic pol in the state. More money, more organization, more of everything.

Her supporters here think it is smart, practical politics to disrespect Democratic ideals and those who support them. Many Clinton supporters have never cared for the left wing of the Party and all they want is their votes in return for being "the lesser of two evils."

[CajunBlazer]

17. No gloating yet - we will have to wait until Nevada, South Carolina....

... and then all of those Southern States on Feb 1st. 13 states and American Samoa will be held that day and Bernie is way behind - 20% to 30% - everywhere but Vermont.

Then you will hear a lot of gloating.

[Flying Phoenix]

59. Guam for Bernie!

I heard they are well organized over there. Clinton has not made an appearance in Guam.

He has organized and funded all 11 ST states and territories.

https://www.facebook.com/GuamforBernieSanders/

[CajunBlazer]

66. I actually lived in Guam for six months

True story.

I hope they have two TV stations by now and, with modern communications, that they don't still show TV shows and sports contests which are two weeks old which are brought over on tape by boat. It was fun to watch a game with a new guy who didn't know the game had already been played and bet with him on the result. I can still remember the TV station's morning sign on, "Guam is good, and so is Tinian, and so is Saipan..." I

also remember the little motel run by Japanese folks, normally inhabited by Japanese tourists, where my feet stuck out over the end of the bed. And the sudden rain storms with rain drops the size of pennies which were followed by sunshine a few minutes later. And the moisture in the air. The great scuba diving....

Ah, the memories, thankfully mostly only the good ones remain.

[cherokeeprogressive]

18. Sure she does. She had a 300 mile head start in the Indy 500...

And won by a bumper.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

36. It's laughable... then Hillary gets up there & acts like she won the Super Bowl & she's goin to Disney World.

How embarrassing and disgraceful!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[pangaia]

54. I am ashamed she calls herself a Democrat.

[stonecutter357]

20. For the 1st Time in US History a Woman- Wins Iowa Caucus....

she has a lot to gloat about here.

[Ken Burch]

33. HRC's gender was never the issue.

Nobody supports Bernie because they don't think the president should be a woman.

It's the right that has THAT hang-up.

[stonecutter357]

35. she has a lot to gloat about..

[thereismore]

61. Woman. Woman. Woman. Woman. Do you even ever look at what's actually going on in her head?

As opposed to her natural physiology dictated by the XX combination that she received at the coin toss of her conception?

[stonecutter357]

62. she is the 1st Woman in US History to Wins Iowa Caucus....

[thereismore]

63. There you go again.

[stonecutter357]

64. why do you hate Woman?

never mind i don't want to know.

[thereismore]

65. Your grammar is off. Who is "Woman?"

A certain woman or all women. Whatever do you mean?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

80. don't feed the trolls. They tend

to get all excited and bothersome

[thereismore]

83. I know! I am in the mood today though.

[Bettie]

23. And yet they are

gloating about their enormous win....they seem to think that what happened WAS a 30 point victory.

Goes back to their anger at the audacity of anyone daring to run against her and spoil the coronation.

[Bleacher Creature]

25. She did what she needed to do.

Which was to hold serve in a state that naturally plays to Sanders' strengths. Other than NH and VT, Iowa was his best hope.

There's no reason for Clinton to gloat. But that doesn't mean that she's not still in very good shape.

[Gothmog]

30. Iowa was a must win for Sanders

Sanders is only polling well in four states where the voting population is 90+% and if Sanders can not win in Iowa then he is in trouble in South Carolina and the Super Tuesday states http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/01/iowa_caucus_stakes_for_hillary_clinton_and_bernie_sanders.html

For Bernie, meanwhile, a Hillary victory would be an undeniable blow. With the exception of New Hampshire and his home state of Vermont, the Hawkeye State—with a Democratic electorate that skews white and liberal—represents the friendliest terrain on the map for Sanders. If Bernie can’t win in Iowa, Clinton and her allies will have no problem brushing off a Sanders win in New Hampshire next week as little more than the result of the senator being a near-native son in the Granite State. Sanders, then, would be in need of a win elsewhere to reset the race—and soon—but won’t have any obvious place to turn.

South Carolina and Super Tuesday will be fun

[Punkingal]

46. U gonna post that in every single thread?

[Flying Phoenix]

89. I understand Bernie has already organized and set up for all 11 ST states

There is barely any organization beyond NH, NV, SC.

[firebrand80]

40. Yes, all the gloating is unconscionable nt

[beachbum bob]

50. hillary won....inspite of bernie hoopla and spin

after these first few small state primaries I am afraid its over for the bern....

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

69. Keep "California dreamin" beachbum bob... you will soon be jumpin on the Bernie bandwagon.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[2banon]

68. Hear! Here! Ken! Well Said!

[randome]

72. She can gloat all she wants. So can Sanders after he wins NH.

But I'm betting you won't tell him to 'tone it down', will you?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[Ken Burch]

87. Bernie won't need coin tosses to win NH. n/t.

[randome]

90. I bet he doesn't. But he did need them for Iowa.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[d_legendary1]

84. We're a long ways from calling this race

And .4% doesn't mean that the ENTIRE Democratic base is theirs. If anything it proves the ground game for Sanders is working. America is feeling the Bern!!!

[pandr32]

88. She does not "gloat"

She is a well brought up and intelligent person who knows how to conduct herself professionally.
She is the first woman to win Iowa, a historical victory.
She is presidential.