The Bernie "win by losing" thing bodes well for the future.

[DanTex]

We always knew that, with some of the heated rhetoric this primary season, we were going to be facing the task of unifying the party behind Hillary once she secures the nomination, and making sure that people the Bernie has brought out don't do something dumb like vote third party.

Well, it occurs to me that Bernie fans' ability to turn a loss into a win gives us a great opportunity. When Hillary wins the nomination, no doubt Bernie fans across the internet will be declaring it a huge victory for Bernie. The question is, can they keep up that belief all the way through November? Is HA Goodman still going to be claiming victory even when Hillary's name is on the GE ballot? If so, maybe we don't even need to tell Bernie fans that he lost. They can just go into the GE thinking they are voting for Bernie. Even when Hillary is sworn in, they can think that it's actually Bernie being sworn in.

[Bonobo]

1. You're hurting, aren't you?

[DanTex]

2. Laughing so much it hurts?

[hobbit709]

7. ...

[Bonobo]

8. Oh, no, it was just that you keep starting these threads... like a person in pain.

I'm a pretty good read of people. I just thought you needed someone to reach out and let you know it's okay.

It's okay, bro. It'll be okay.

Sanders is a MASSIVE underdog. That's what made the Iowa results so amazing.

[DanTex]

9. LOL. Apparently you're no better at reading people then you are at looking at two

numbers and seeing which one is bigger.

[Bonobo]

11. And the quick responses. All point to inner turmoil.

[DanTex]

13. Ooh, getting personal! LOL.

[Bonobo]

14. C'mere you. Sssssh. Just ssshhh. nt

[DanTex]

16. Do I so upset you that can't even think of anything different to post? Not my intention, apologies.

[Bonobo]

18. Sometimes you just gotta hug.

I'm a dad, I do this with my kids. Trust me. Let it go.

[DanTex]

19. I'd give you a big hug if I were there. Can't be easy watching your man lose Iowa.

[Bonobo]

21. Honestly, I'm overjoyed. Michael Moore put it really well.

An elderly Jewish socialist, whose avg contrib is $27, ends up in a TIE w/ 1 of the most famous political figures of the past 3 decades. Wow

[DanTex]

24. And I think that's great. Like I said in the OP, if Bernie fans can keep up the "win by losing," it

will really help Hillary in the GE.

[Bonobo]

26. Yeah, you keep saying that.I think it's kind of pathetic.

You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.

Like a daily self-affirmation.

[DanTex]

27. Yes, we all understand that you enjoy attacking me personally. Hope it makes you feel better.

Or, no, wait, you're overjoyed. Lashing out at random people on the internet is apparently what overjoyed Bernie fans do...

[Bonobo]

30. Oh, Dan...

Oh, oh, oh Dan...

So I WAS right after all.

I'm sorry.

[DanTex]

36. Of course you were right! You're a Bernie fan. When have they ever been wrong?

I mean besides Iowa. But other than that?

[cali]

3. Spin, Dan, spin.

It's a riot watching you guys.

[DanTex]

6. Funny. Bernie fans switch the meanings of "win" and "lose", and accuse others of "spinning".

[JaneyVee]

4. And a Hillary win is a "loss" and a Hillary loss is a loss.

See what she's up against?

[morningfog]

17. Close. A Hillary lose is a lose. A win by coin toss, is a tie at best.

But, the public perception is far far worse for Hillary. She blew a 30 point lead, blew the budget, went all in and won by a coin toss. Yikes.

No doubt, the honest people in her campaign are scared and angry.

It's going to be even worse when Bernie decisively wins NH. It's not going to be close there, no coin flipping.

[Bobbie Jo]

39. Well

When you have people lining up one by one to confirm your narrative, you're ALWAYS right.

Neat trick, huh?

[NurseJackie]

5. Ha! :-D

[Depaysement]

10. Or the "Bernie fans" can go back to their normal lives

And stay home in November. Oh, well.

I don't think you understand why Sanders is in the race, why millions of small donors are giving him money.

Mock us all you want Even if Sanders loses, you need his voters and many may not oblige, particularly with that condescending tone that permeates the Clinton machine.

[DanTex]

12. Well, that's the problem. The whole question is, will Bernie be able to bring his supporters on

board to vote for Hillary in the general. The way Hillary did with Obama in 2008. No doubt Bernie will endorse her. Will that be enough?

But I'm thinking that if Bernie fans can continue to see losing to Hillary as a kind of victory, it will make that process smoother.

[morningfog]

20. You got it all wrong. It is he nominee's job to bring the voters.

You don't get to blame a former candidate if/when they blow it and fail to garner support.

[DanTex]

22. Well, if Bernie's really a member of the Democratic party, he shoulders responsibility too.

We'll find out in a few months if he's only in this for personal ambition, or if he really wants to help the nation out.

[morningfog]

23. How bout you wait in counting any chickens

until all the coins are tossed.

[DanTex]

25. No need to even count them. When Bernie loses, he really wins. That's the beauty of it all.

[morningfog]

28. When Hillary's lead drops from +30 to +.2

Despite all her money and effort, she really did plummet.

[DanTex]

29. Yes, before Bernie launched his campaign, she was further ahead. Good point.

[morningfog]

35. We're talking Nov and Dec, LOLOLLOLL.

When we were well underway. This is what Hillary does. Loses support as people get to know her.

[Depaysement]

33. She has to tell them why they should vote for her

A lot will not be persuaded. I will probably vote for her but not do anything else. And I usually do quite a bit.

I think Sanders initially entered the race to move the middle of the road to the left on economic issues. We have spent over 35 years listening and bending to conservative arguments about taxation, the distribution of wealth and so on. We are sick of it. This is not Hillary's agenda and it never will be.

Now people are listening and responding to arguments about the uneven distribution of wealth, fairness, democracy, corporate greed, wages, etc. That's in large part because of Bernie Sanders.

Hillary has to address these issues in a convincing manner to have any hope of getting Sanders supporters on board. I'm not seeing it.

[firebrand80]

15. Bernard Sanders, President of the Internet nt

[Logical]

31. Lol, you sound scared as shit today. Nt

[bowens43]

32. wow , posts like this are part of the reason I won't vote for hill if she worms her way into the GE

her supporters are reflection of her so called 'leadership'.

[DanTex]

37. You won't, huh? Have you looked over at the GOP side lately?

Because of my posts on DU, you're going to help Cruz become president? Nice.

[My Good Babushka]

34. George W. Bush won by losing

so you never know until inauguration day.

[ucrdem]

38. It's up to Bernie. A loss by 4 delegates is not a "virtual tie."

His speech was frankly misleading. Not a good sign.

[frylock]

40. The Hillary "Win by coin-toss" doesn't bode well for the future of Hillary.

[MoonRiver]

41. He would have to run as an independent, which he promised not to do.

That's the only win-by-losing scenario I can come up with.

[KingFlorez]

42. Winning by losing only works for weight

Not elections.