2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders's tie should be the biggest story of the Iowa caucuses
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5. As impressive as a third-place finish in Iowa is for Marco Rubio, a tie for Bernie Sanders is a genuinely remarkable political achievement.
6. Imagine telling Bill Clinton in 1992 that 25 years later his wife would be neck-and-neck with an "independent socialist" in the Democratic primary. This wasn't supposed to be possible.
7. In 2008, Barack Obama beat Clinton in Iowa. His campaign was powered by liberal anger over the war in Iraq anger Clinton was on the wrong side of as well as real institutional support from the Democratic Party. Sanders had much less to work with in terms of issue differences or Democratic Party fissures, and was facing Clinton in a year she was much stronger.
8. If the caucus results ended in a tie between Sanders and Clinton, then the speeches turned the night into a win for Sanders he made a detailed, thorough case for his candidacy in a way Clinton simply didn't. His speech felt like Obama's primary-night speeches in 2008. Clinton's felt like, well, Clinton's primary-night speeches in 2008.
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http://www.vox.com/2016/2/2/10892802/iowa-caucus-bernie-sanders-tie
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(6,048 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Remember there really weren't even any voters.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)After months and months of being told of an enthusiasm gap, we end up with a virtual tie? Months and months of massive rallies and we get a virtual tie?
Gotta find the good where you can, I guess, in trying to change the narrative as best as you can.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)This is not how to nominate a candidate. Yes, I realize Hillary is not nominated by a long shot. But, seriously is that how we want to send delegates for the nomination?
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cali
(114,904 posts)less than a half percent is a win. And that's exactly what I'd be saying if it was reversed. And a tie is great for Bernie. He gains a ton of momentum. And money is undoubtedly pouring in.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Clinton can't really claim a win. She lost by not winning....pure and simple.
BERNIE WON! WE THE PEOPLE WON!
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)heavily white-liberal Iowa.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Out of curiosity, how will the delegates be proportioned?