The Democrats Effectively Tied in Iowa, But Sanders Won the Future

[whirlygigspin]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/iowa-bernie-sanders-won-his-partys-future.html

February 2, 2016
12:33 a.m by Eric Levitz

"Bernie Sanders owns the future of the Democratic Party...America’s favorite democratic socialist to a virtual tie: Sanders outperformed Clinton among voters 18 to 29 by 70 points, according to CNN’s entrance poll."

[Fearless]

1. Also this...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/IA

Which ONE of these four candidate qualities mattered most in deciding whom to support today?

3.) Honest and trustworthy
Sanders 83%
Clinton 10%
O'Malley 5%
Uncommitted

[backtomn]

4. How does that make sense?

You are up 83 to 10 in trustworthiness and lose? Are our voters crazy? Should we start wearing "Hillary Kick Me" signs on our backs? Yikes.

[loyalsister]

7. Because the default position is

that people most don't trust politicians generally. "They all lie, anyway. Might as well vote for the one I know best." Etc....

[Fearless]

10. It's of those who said trustworthiness

Was the most important of the four qualities suggested... 83% picked Bernie.

Overall 24% picked trustworthiness.

So about 20% of all voters picked Bernie because he was most trustworthy and that mattered most to the voters in question.

[Art_from_Ark]

6. Looking on the Republican side of those results...

JEB! will have to change that exclamation mark to a question mark

[John Poet]

11. Jeb is SO 'OVER'.

97 percent of the Iowa GOP said "NO!" to Jeb!

I am quite pleased with that result.

[merrily]

12. So hard to choose among them, but I'd rather Jeb! than Cruz, I think.

[tecelote]

14. Cruz is scary.

[Enthusiast]

20. He sure is. Serial killer scary.

[Art_from_Ark]

26. Considering JEB!'s role in the 2000 election theft

it's poetic justice that he got his ass handed to him on the proverbial platter.

JEB? and Cruz are both horrible-- just in different ways.

[Art_from_Ark]

25. No more Bushes!

[gyroscope]

2. Hillary would be a disaster in the GE

Favorability Ratings Show Hillary Clinton Is Unelectable and Bernie Sanders Wins a General Election
Huffington Post

Democrats must win swing states in 2016 to prevent Trump or another Republican from sitting in the Oval Office. Since voters in general elections normally won't vote for a candidate they don't like or at least find trustworthy, it's imperative that a Democratic nominee hold positive favorability ratings going into Election Day.

I explain in great detail in my latest YouTube segment why Hillary Clinton is unelectable due to negative favorability polls nationwide and within swing states.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/favorability-ratings-show-hillary-clinton-is-unelectable_b_8388316.html

[Enthusiast]

21. We're just going to have to beat her.

[Betty Karlson]

3. SEVENTY points difference among Millennials?

The Democratic Party ignores such landslides at its peril.

[Odin2005]

28. The party has been ignoring young people for decades.

It is why there seems to be so few Gen-X Dem politicians compared to Gen-X Republican politicians.

[Betty Karlson]

30. Repetitive problem then...

[backtomn]

5. How do you win the future?

With a 74 yo candidate that will be unable to run after this election? If Hillary win the nomination, who picks up that torch? That is what I am worried about.

[HubertHeaver]

8. For both Bernie and Hillary, the

Vice Presidential pick is of paramount importance.

[countmyvote4real]

15. Back it up and pair them up. Who are your winning picks for VP?

Probably best as a separate thread.

[Enthusiast]

22. I hope she picks a total boob.

[gyroscope]

9. Give me 4 years of Sanders

than 8 years of the Clintons any day of the week.

[countmyvote4real]

13. +1 n/t

[Enthusiast]

23. Me too.

But if we have four years of Bernie people will line up to continue his platform.

[hopemountain]

16. good grief. he's an elder

and a wise and valuable one at that. he is dynamic, spirited, energetic, vigorous, active, lively & vital to our country's future. you speak as though he is at death's door. he's likely to live at least 15-20 more years.

[Helen Borg]

17. I'm confused....

Why does O'Malley still have some votes?
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-primaries-2016/%23/#/
If that 0.5% went to Sanders, then he'd be up...

[Flying Squirrel]

19. He must have reached the 15% threshold in some precincts

Which allowed him to pick up some delegates. He'll release those delegates before the convention to vote as they see fit -- Since he's clearly angling for the VP slot, he'll most likely wait until it's obvious who's gonna win and then endorse the leader, but those pledged delegates will not be bound by his endorsement. At least that's the way I think it goes, but if someone has better info please correct me.

[Metric System]

18. Why don't we wait until we get to more diverse states before making such declarations.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. Actually, Bernie WON Iowa by not losing to Ms. Inevitable.

A tie is a win for Bernie!

Also, all precincts haven't reported and there's still one delegate left.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Gothmog]

27. Iowa was a must win for Sanders

Sanders is only polling well in four states where the voting population is 90+% and if Sanders can not win in Iowa then he is in trouble in South Carolina and the Super Tuesday states http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/02/01/iowa_caucus_stakes_for_hillary_clinton_and_bernie_sanders.html

For Bernie, meanwhile, a Hillary victory would be an undeniable blow. With the exception of New Hampshire and his home state of Vermont, the Hawkeye State—with a Democratic electorate that skews white and liberal—represents the friendliest terrain on the map for Sanders. If Bernie can’t win in Iowa, Clinton and her allies will have no problem brushing off a Sanders win in New Hampshire next week as little more than the result of the senator being a near-native son in the Granite State. Sanders, then, would be in need of a win elsewhere to reset the race—and soon—but won’t have any obvious place to turn.

South Carolina and Super Tuesday will be fun

[BillZBubb]

29. Bernie didn't win anything. The Democratic party lost.

A whole generation of young voters, energized by Sanders and his message will not be motivated in November to vote for Hillary. They just aren't attracted to conservaDems. A Hillary presidency (if it even happens) won't solidify them as part of the Democratic base.

Iowa was a battleground for the soul of the party and the bold, progressive side lost. The DLC, corporatist side won.

With Hillary as our candidate, the general election battle will be fought over convincing enough independent voters that, although they may have doubts about Hillary and may not like her, the repub alternative is abhorrent. That is going to be a tough race to win.