MSNBC saying now 90 precincts weren't staffed by Iowa Dem Party and want help counting.

[valerief]

Sounds like no one was there to validate dem votes. So they managed to make the caucus results as invalid as electronic votes!

They're pulling a Romney/Santorum switch!

[99th_Monkey]

1. Wow. This is getting messy. coin tosses, unsupervised precincts .. groan. nt

[notadmblnd]

3. link counting votes down

https://www.idpcaucuses.com/#/county/19077

[valerief]

4. That's one county

[morningfog]

8. THe whole thing is down for me.

[Arugula Latte]

2. WTF? Why can't we get voting right in this country?

[MattP]

5. Sanders captain and Clinton captains should have numbers match

Fingers crossed!

[ZombieHorde]

6. Well that's interesting to me.

I wonder if anything will come from this.


side note:
"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

Do you have any proof for this claim?

[valerief]

10. Ha! I'm sure I'll find a link for you.

[ZombieHorde]

14. You better!

[sabrina 1]

7. What a mess. Bernie should take a lesson from Hillary and just declare victory, I think he won

He would have had it not been for those coin tosses, all of which landed in favor of Hillary.

[bettyellen]

17. she did not declare victory. she breathed a sigh of relief. and said that she looks forward to

debating Bernie.

[John Poet]

26. Hillary's campaign declared that she had "won",

before she made her speech, via a statement. That was reported and derided by MSNBC, who couldn't figure how they could possibly make such a claim with 25% of the vote still out, and the precinct delegate margin in single digits. I thought the claim was the utmost of unmitigated arrogance, myself.

Then she walked it back with her speech,
and only "breathed a sign of relief"
(that she didn't lose here, clearly. Hasn't really won, but didn't lose.)

[Purveyor]

9. What the hell is she up to? nt

[florida08]

11. I don't get it

It's up to 99% now yet the tally hasn't change in the passed 30 minutes. Still 49.6- 49.8

[valerief]

12. They wont tell us Sanders won until after NH. They want him to lose momentum. nt

[joshcryer]

13. There are 1,681 precincts, so that's about 5%.

Probably small rural precincts though.

[Uncle Joe]

15. Nope, some of the precincts were in the same county as Des Moines not that far from the

state democratic headquarters per what I just heard on CNN.

[joshcryer]

18. Sounds like someone fucked up bad, then.

This isn't rocket science.

[valerief]

16. Right, that's what they're saying, but the Clinton/Sanders people are disputing the counts and

the Iowa Dem Party never staffed these 90 precincts to settle disputes.

[Howler]

21. But

They authorized them to flip coins? Something smells like a rat here. It's not right.

[valerief]

22. Oh yeah. Apparently, that's legit when the results are a tie. Funny how HRC got all 3 coin tosses.

[Howler]

27. They actually think

That they will get away with trying to steal this caucas? Wow! Rofl! Talk about misreading the mood of the electorate that already finds the establishments candidate untrustworthy is certainly putting out fire with gasoline.

[bettyellen]

19. they said it was a mix. what a mess.

[winter is coming]

20. On MSNBC just now: Iowa Dem Party claims all precincts were staffed; campaign claims false.

Party says they'll contact the precinct chairs, but want the campaigns' help in contacting the chairs. The campaigns know where the chairs are but the Party doesn't?

[valerief]

23. And Tweety saying the chairs go to bed without reporting results. Bizarre bullshit! nt

[winter is coming]

25. Not something I ever forgot, that's for damn sure. n/t

[winter is coming]

24. Tweety's interviewing someone who claims it's pretty typical for about 100 chairs to forget

to file before going home. Usually, it doesn't matter. If that's the case, why does the website say there are only 13 precincts still out? Seems odd to me that that many people would forget to file before going home, as that's part of the breakdown process. I guess it still is; just in a different way.

[John Poet]

28. Maybe they should hire some sixteen year old to do it,

instead of the people they've got.

"Forget to file" the results?!
Like, the whole reason they are there..... duh.