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Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:40 AM Sep 2012

Is it just me?

The amount of repub attempted voter fraud is being aired and caught on a daily basis.

I don't remember this happening in other recent elections.

Could it be that this time the American people will not stand for having another election stolen?

I sure hope so.

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Is it just me? (Original Post) Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 OP
And thats just whats being caught.. Pbs1914 Sep 2012 #1
I think you are right Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #6
I think being able to post it on the internet helps. Before it was all phone calls and letters. mucifer Sep 2012 #2
Exactly. Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #7
Good point. Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #12
They think the only way to "save" America is to destroy it. baldguy Sep 2012 #3
Yes! Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #8
I have a theory about this. Waltons_Mtn Sep 2012 #4
Could be Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #14
It is a sign of Republicn desperation... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #5
Because it is "blatant and obvious" Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #9
Factors PATRICK Sep 2012 #10
This country cannot afford another Dubya Bush. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #11
No we cannot Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #13
Horror is that if they win by fraud it will not matter. They will be in glinda Sep 2012 #16
Maybe I am wrong Grateful for Hope Sep 2012 #17
Hope U R right but when it is done it will be done. Supreme Court is not a friend. glinda Sep 2012 #18
No we most certainly can't! Waltons_Mtn Sep 2012 #15

Pbs1914

(147 posts)
1. And thats just whats being caught..
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:47 AM
Sep 2012

This year maybe they are just more incompetent in regards to hiding it the way the top of the ticket is more incompetent on just about every level.
I still think its the tip of the iceberg. This time around we do have dems with backbones willing to fight though. Willing to have lawyers in place ahead of time etc. During the wilderness (2000-2008)years when there was no real two party or democratic national opposotion. Remaining cautious and hopeing for the best.

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
6. I think you are right
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:12 AM
Sep 2012

but, I also think that the Obama team will catch whatever they try to do (unlike the 2004 race)

mucifer

(23,557 posts)
2. I think being able to post it on the internet helps. Before it was all phone calls and letters.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:48 AM
Sep 2012

It's hard to get the word out that way.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
3. They think the only way to "save" America is to destroy it.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:49 AM
Sep 2012

We used to fight wars against people who wanted to take away our right to vote - now the GOP wants to put those people in charge!

Waltons_Mtn

(345 posts)
4. I have a theory about this.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:52 AM
Sep 2012

In business, if you make a product that has little to no demand you must somehow create demand. The repubs have created all of these anti-fraud (voter suppression) legislation that is really not needed (low demand). They know they can't win this election so instead they are using it to creating demand. Letting some low(er) level activists get caught for fraud so that the public sees a need for their legislation. Just my crazy thoughts.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
5. It is a sign of Republicn desperation...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:53 AM
Sep 2012

But we will have to wait for the day after the election to know if the American people will stand for it, or even know if they are conscious of it.

It is certainly the most blatant and obvious attempt to steal an election I have ever seen.

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
10. Factors
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:03 PM
Sep 2012

Done with impunity too much too often with too many newly franchised eager beavers crossing state lines not really knowing the territory- or caring. Money. Drooling young weasels in black suits with a titillating career in shady power grabs. Like spies, cynical PR ops etc.

Losing. Facing certain loss however, the daylight suddenly increases on these creatures out from under the log, STILL granted media and legal immunity of sorts, mind you. If Romney was ahead or competitive(within the 5-10% cheat range) they would be immensely more entitled, funded, motivated, protected. With others running for cover the shade is decreasing for GOP fraud in its rich multitude of forms.
You are only seeing the most egregious and only thanks to the most active pursuit of knowledgeable activists.

The party pros only are concerned with catching hypocritical examples to establish a narrative, if gifted by someone catching the glaring examples. The overwhelming narrative is still the GOP Big Lie, a true mother of all whoppers, that of the Obama voting ID cheater, a narrative I suspect most of their own party winks at as a neat cheat. In olden times, so long ago, liberal Dems used to wink without much understanding or caring at the Illinois Method epitomized by Daley's Chicago, the big city gaming of richly electoral states.

Instead of realizing that fair media, really representing and uniting the common citizenry and simply guarding the vote Dems would give themselves back a several per cent handicap in many key races this unholy partial gaming and overall destruction of public trust continues. Electronic voting seals this impression in a deliberate digital haze in chugging box of mystery. Accepting fraud in general is the big problem. No matter how spectacular the stories, impunity still pays, the guilty hardly punished, and the whorehouse reopens business as usual after the raid.

The Judiciary tips on wary toes even when crimes are dragged to the bench, the DOJ even in Dem hands is not exactly seen as a practical watchman.

Biden's proposed cure still stands. Get the big money chicken out of politics and these fraud eggs will not hatch.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
11. This country cannot afford another Dubya Bush.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

That's what it seems to me.

They woke up after the debacle of the 2000 election, looked around and said 'wow, that sucks' and thought the elections would correct that error in 2004.
When it happened again in Ohio, that was enough to wake up the rest of the people who were apathetic, or just complacent about the elections, and they joined the rest of us who were fighting for the return to fair elections.

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
13. No we cannot
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:50 PM
Sep 2012

However, what you are saying is what I believe. The Obama team is aware of the fraud.

They will not get away with it this time.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
16. Horror is that if they win by fraud it will not matter. They will be in
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM
Sep 2012

control, lock out any chance of correction and put the "crazies" in charge. This oddly reminded me last night of what my grandmother fled when she came to this Country. Actually I am very worried about this. People like this take orders easily and have no reasoning skills. They do not care.

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
17. Maybe I am wrong
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:35 PM
Sep 2012

but I think because there is media coverage of voter fraud, it will not win this tine.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
18. Hope U R right but when it is done it will be done. Supreme Court is not a friend.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:12 PM
Sep 2012

And where are all of the arrests for past issues?
I have no trust or faith at all should there be issues after the fact. It is a mess.

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