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What's your prediction for Iowa? (Original Post) Nightjock Jan 2016 OP
Turn out of 200k hoosierlib Jan 2016 #1
+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #2
Congrats on 200 posts! bigwillq Jan 2016 #32
Close to that Old Codger Jan 2016 #3
Clinton will win by at least 5% points over Sanders in Iowa. nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #4
Lots of reasons from Berniebros why IA doesn't matter. nt LexVegas Jan 2016 #5
Percent of what? Caucusers or delegates to the state convention? HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #6
Clinton by 7 points... DCBob Jan 2016 #7
Clinton by 5 over Sanders BigGLiberal Jan 2016 #8
Bernie by 6%. Something like 52-46-2. reformist2 Jan 2016 #9
Bernie 52 Clinton 48 basselope Jan 2016 #10
Welcome to DU. HRC peeps have an app to redistribute their people to her benefit. JudyM Jan 2016 #17
TY... basselope Jan 2016 #23
Well, re-welcome, then! I'd say Bernie 51 if it weren't for HRCs plan of manipulating the caucus #s JudyM Jan 2016 #24
I fear it is possible... basselope Jan 2016 #35
Well we should know in a little over 24 hours. We can hope for the best. JudyM Jan 2016 #36
Hello bigwillq Jan 2016 #34
He's going to get 15% in some precincts. I'd guess he wins a couple of small ones out right. askew Jan 2016 #42
I'll go alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #11
Bernie = Enormous lead, landslide...n/t monmouth4 Jan 2016 #12
I agree with yours. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #13
HRC speaktruthtopower Jan 2016 #14
I agree with you re: Bush. Maybe Rubio too. It's going to be a squeaker on the dem side, though. JudyM Jan 2016 #19
My prediction? AtomicKitten Jan 2016 #15
I am going conservative here Robbins Jan 2016 #16
I don't dare to guess. I'm not jynxin' this thang. Gregorian Jan 2016 #18
Clinton +3 Stuckinthebush Jan 2016 #20
For the record angrychair Jan 2016 #21
Bernie ypsfonos Jan 2016 #22
Mostly Cloudy The River Jan 2016 #25
I predict that will shorten any victory parties. HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author postatomic Jan 2016 #43
I really don't have a clue. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2016 #26
I'm half stunned and half sickened by saltpoint Jan 2016 #27
+1 n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #58
We won't know the percentages, just the delegate count Recursion Jan 2016 #28
Bernie by 2%. Nt marlakay Jan 2016 #30
Hillary and Bernie will collect about an equal number of delegates. yardwork Jan 2016 #31
I agree, +- 2. It's going to be a near even delegate split. morningfog Jan 2016 #50
Clinton 54%, Sanders 42% KingFlorez Jan 2016 #33
Based on crowds in past two days, sanders wins by 20 points = LANDSLIDE. Red-baiting begins KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #48
Bernie by 12 Paulie Jan 2016 #37
Is that result actually possible? AJH032 Jan 2016 #38
It's 15% for each precinct. askew Jan 2016 #40
Got it, thanks! AJH032 Jan 2016 #41
My prediction: askew Jan 2016 #39
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #62
Aw hell. I don't know. What do you think? Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #44
Call me nuts, then go to bed. Flying Phoenix Jan 2016 #45
LOL - And I thought I was being optimistic! I like the cut of your KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #49
ROFL I love it. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #56
I hope it's Bernie DemocraticWing Jan 2016 #46
Bernie will win if the turnout is high. winter is coming Jan 2016 #47
Bernie wins Kalidurga Jan 2016 #51
Sanders 45%; Clinton 42%; O'Malley 8% - Trump 26%; Cruz 22%; Rubio 16%; Carson 11%; Paul 5%; Bush 4% Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #61
With the weather question, I wouldn't hazard a guess. longship Feb 2016 #53
Clinton will win by 7 or 8 points. eom asuhornets Feb 2016 #54
Clinton by 4 1/2 points CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #55
Clinton 53 - Sanders 46 - O'Malley 1 brooklynite Feb 2016 #57
Sanders by 7-10 points kcjohn1 Feb 2016 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #60
 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
1. Turn out of 200k
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jan 2016

And Bernie by a hair...

The revolution (and red-baiting negative attacks by HRC) begin tomorrow...

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
3. Close to that
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jan 2016

Bu personally I think Sanders a little higher than that..I think there will be shock waves generated...(hope no just wishful thinking)

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. Clinton by 7 points...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jan 2016

and much wailing from the Bernie crowd about cheating and unfairness of the caucus system.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
10. Bernie 52 Clinton 48
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

Remember, O'Malley likely won't get 15% in any district and so his voters will either have to go home or choose another candidate.

Undecideds, etc, usually break for the non-establishment candidate 2-1, which means if the last poll was accurate Clinton 45, Sanders 42, the 13% should split approximately 8.5% for Bernie, 4.5% for Clinton, giving Sanders about 51 and Clinton about 49.

However, I think people are underestimating the dislike of Clinton out there, so I actually expect more like 75% to break towards Sanders.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
17. Welcome to DU. HRC peeps have an app to redistribute their people to her benefit.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jan 2016

Depending on the numbers, they will join MOMs supporters, etc.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
23. TY...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

Was here a long time ago, during the Howard Dean days, but forgot my password and have no access to the e-mail address I had in 2004.

Haven't had a candidate to be excited about since then!

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
24. Well, re-welcome, then! I'd say Bernie 51 if it weren't for HRCs plan of manipulating the caucus #s
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jan 2016

So I'm guessing she will win by at least 3-4 points. And I will still be happy for Bernie with that.

I don't see how MOM will get 15% anywhere except as manipulated by HRCs team.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
35. I fear it is possible...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jan 2016

Unfortunately, I also fear that it sets the tone for the rest.

This is the perfect storm for Bernie and Bernie's strategy of reaching out to people who have given up.. those who feel disenfranchised by the process.

A win for Hilary here will give her solid media coverage (who is already in her pocket) and while I will go with Bill Maher's advise of if I can't eat the fish, eat the chicken... I will hold my nose doing it but I truly believe that in a Trump v Clinton matchup, she will lose and we will have President Trump... so I may work like crazy to try and get Cruz to be the nominee for the GOP or even bush... b/c only with GOP apathy being a strong as what democratic apathy will be, can the democrats hold the white house.

JudyM

(29,250 posts)
36. Well we should know in a little over 24 hours. We can hope for the best.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jan 2016

It's mind boggling that in all of the US we don't have better candidates on both sides. I mean, Bernie's great, but the rest, just whew (except MOM, but it seems he doesn't have the public support needed to win the GE).

askew

(1,464 posts)
42. He's going to get 15% in some precincts. I'd guess he wins a couple of small ones out right.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

Even top people on the ground in Iowa who are Hillary supporters expect O'Malley to finish in 2nd in the precinct that has Luther and Grinnell colleges. He should do better than expected in the Drake University's precinct as well.

speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
14. HRC
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

I think she'll pick up OMalley's 3% and win by about 5%. The sense of inevitability will eventually push her over the top. If not now, in a few weeks.

On the Republican side, wouldn't be surprised if Bush does better than expected. They may be getting sick of the opprobrium and look for a familiar name. Plus he must have a ground game with all that money.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
16. I am going conservative here
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie 52 Clinton 47

I think the gop Clown car will be Trump 30% Cruz 25% Rubio 20% Carson 15% rest-single digets

The MSM will be shocked.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
21. For the record
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jan 2016

There is no "winner" in an Iowa caucus in the "winner take all" context of a primary or election.
That being said, I think he will come out ahead by 2-5 delegates and a worst case scenario will one less than Clinton.

Even in my "worse case scenario" though Sanders comes out ahead. He will win NH. He is likely to win NV. He may loss SC but "worse case" there still has him with a very positive showing and therefore showing he is in play in the South.
HRC has been a vast majority of her money and effort into Iowa. Much reporting exist on this subject. That has caused her a less than ideal ground game in the Super Tuesday states. That is not true for Sanders. He will win a majority of those states.

This will be a very interesting election cycle. Not the victory lap that HRC and her supporters were expecting.

Democracy is awesome.

Response to The River (Reply #25)

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. I really don't have a clue.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jan 2016

The way they run their caucuses, I could see it going absolutely anywhere, despite roughly even numbers of folks in polls saying they prefer each of the two main candidates.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
27. I'm half stunned and half sickened by
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

the Republican Party no matter the context, but moreso this election cycle.

Trump's loud mouth, Cruz's slithering around like a reptile, Jeb eating nails for breakfast, Christie perfecting his role as the The Nation's Biggest Asshole, and Ben Carson blathering on about grain in pyramids.

It's a total train wreck.

I think they're stuck with Trump or Cruz. They deserve to be, too. But the rest of us don't.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
28. We won't know the percentages, just the delegate count
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jan 2016

I suppose exit polls might give us some idea of the percentages.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
31. Hillary and Bernie will collect about an equal number of delegates.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jan 2016

Talking heads on TV will blather for days but the outcome of IA is clearly mostly a draw.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
48. Based on crowds in past two days, sanders wins by 20 points = LANDSLIDE. Red-baiting begins
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:30 PM
Jan 2016

Feb 2. See Upton Sinclair's run for California Governor.

AJH032

(1,124 posts)
38. Is that result actually possible?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jan 2016

I thought the Iowa caucus rules don't award delegates to any candidate with less than 15%, so how could O'Malley get 3%? Unless I'm understanding it wrong?

askew

(1,464 posts)
40. It's 15% for each precinct.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jan 2016

So, it is very possible for O'Malley to get 3% of total delegates by achieving 15% viability in a handful of precincts.

askew

(1,464 posts)
39. My prediction:
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders - 40%
H. Clinton - 35%
O'Malley - 25%

Yes, it's completely unrealistic but I am hoping for a huge O'Malley surprise.

Response to askew (Reply #39)

 

Flying Phoenix

(114 posts)
45. Call me nuts, then go to bed.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders: 72
Clinton: 14
O'Malley: 14

Story of the night: A superb strategy for Bernie to assist O'Malley after excessive caucus goers have flooded the rooms with high rate of solid Bernie supporters in each caucus location with a very small number of Clinton supporters, reflecting the actual numbers of people who are tired of the establishment and ready for a new direction.

(I know I live in a fantasy world, but I'm realistic that Bernie'll win convincingly, if not a blowout)

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
46. I hope it's Bernie
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jan 2016

My actual prediction:

Clinton 50%
Sanders 48%
O'Malley 2%

Turnout: 198K

Bernie is hurt because his college vote isn't spread out enough.

On the Republican side I think Trump edges Cruz, with Rubio closer than people expected. No candidate will get more than 25%, but only those 3 (and mayyybe Carson) above 10%.

I think Sanders pulls off a less than convincing win in New Hampshire, but that an upset in Nevada can break the narrative and change things in his direction. If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire (which is possible) then we won't need to hold out for an upset in Nevada.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
51. Bernie wins
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:49 PM
Jan 2016

But, by a lot less than your prediction. I am thinking 49/45/and I have no clue what O'Malley supporters will do. If they think they are being played by Hillary people they might come over to Bernie's side. If they want him to get to the 15% point in at least some places they might accept the help of Hillary people. I would tell them to f' themselves myself, but that means nothing in the real world.

Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #52)

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
57. Clinton 53 - Sanders 46 - O'Malley 1
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:44 AM
Feb 2016

Reminder that:

1. the percentages that will be reported will not be voters, but will be allocated delegates

2. Delegates are allocated at a precinct level, not statewide

3. A candidate that doesn't reach 15% in a percent won't receive any delegates

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
59. Sanders by 7-10 points
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 12:45 AM
Feb 2016

Not as big of turnout as in 08 but primarily because of lower turnout from Clinton supporters.

54 Sanders
45 Clinton
01 O'Malley

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