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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:29 PM Jan 2016

Elizabeth Warren Slams Hillary Clinton:

VIDEO: Elizabeth Warren Has Known for Years Where Hillary Clinton’s True Loyalties Lie

Posted on Jan 31, 2016

An old clip of the Massachusetts senator show that she’s known the truth about Hillary Clinton’s relationship with Wall Street for quite some time.

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http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/video_elizabeth_warren_has_known_for_years_hillary_clintons_20160131
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Elizabeth Warren Slams Hillary Clinton: (Original Post) amborin Jan 2016 OP
Know Thy Enemy - Oligarchs, Corporations, Banks And Their Media Minions And MIC Henchmen cantbeserious Jan 2016 #1
And NO endorsement of Bernie. What's up with that? oasis Jan 2016 #2
she implicitly endorsed Bernie the other day: amborin Jan 2016 #6
Is Warren's "implicit" endorsement buried in the link or oasis Jan 2016 #10
Hillary recently stated that she planned to perpetuate Obama's policies; and it is the lax stance amborin Jan 2016 #13
Please see post #15 oasis Jan 2016 #16
Warren is the only female in the US Senate gyroscope Jan 2016 #8
Warren is the most progressive female in the US Senate oasis Jan 2016 #11
We know who Warren endorses gyroscope Jan 2016 #12
I was given to understand that being "up front" was oasis Jan 2016 #15
She hasn't endorsed Sanders either lunamagica Jan 2016 #14
Senators enid602 Jan 2016 #53
Job security. senz Jan 2016 #17
Get real. Warren's " job" would be as safe as Bernie's. oasis Jan 2016 #22
Clinton has the clout and the will senz Jan 2016 #29
Nice cheap-ass thread hijacking attempt. 99Forever Jan 2016 #27
I'm guessing you haven't come up with an adequate explanation oasis Jan 2016 #32
That isn't the topic of this thread. 99Forever Jan 2016 #37
"Rubbish" you say? Apparently other posters don't share your view. oasis Jan 2016 #41
Why don't you try not hijacking other people's threads? 99Forever Jan 2016 #43
I thought Bernie supporters could seek the sanctuary of oasis Jan 2016 #45
I don't need "sanctuary." 99Forever Jan 2016 #46
A "weak sauce" question that has been dodged and deflected oasis Jan 2016 #48
Wow... 99Forever Jan 2016 #50
She's too smart to burn bridges? loyalsister Jan 2016 #58
I wouldn't be surprised if Warren's fence sitting has earned her oasis Jan 2016 #59
Maybe to you loyalsister Jan 2016 #60
And yet they have worked together many times and sat on the same panel a few months ago. onehandle Jan 2016 #3
Of course. Both politics and government require civility and cooperation. senz Jan 2016 #18
She'll endorse Hillary in a few weeks. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #56
Warren is the scourge of Wall Street; Hillary is owned by them. senz Jan 2016 #57
this sums it up amborin Feb 2016 #63
As for the video, I'm sure Warren remembers her conversation w/Moyers. senz Jan 2016 #34
That's why Warren urged HC to run for President pandr32 Jan 2016 #4
Polite, collegial friendliness, nothing more. senz Jan 2016 #39
Ah, a golden oldies station brooklynite Jan 2016 #5
Apparently Elizabeth has changed her mind CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #7
This is telling gyroscope Jan 2016 #9
Exactly. senz Jan 2016 #19
But one of the many Senators not to endorse Bernie Samdrs brooklynite Jan 2016 #23
Bernie is neither powerful nor vindictive. senz Jan 2016 #30
Know what politicians like even more than political influence? brooklynite Jan 2016 #38
Give the source of your quote. senz Jan 2016 #40
Russ Feingold brooklynite Jan 2016 #54
I'd forgotten which Democrat it was. senz Jan 2016 #55
This was empty, polite, collegial talk. senz Jan 2016 #25
She is starting to get as boring treestar Jan 2016 #20
Elizabeth Warren's recent tweetL amborin Jan 2016 #21
What are we going to do with Elizabeth Warren's $5.4 MILLION R B Garr Jan 2016 #24
What matters is what she supports, not what she owns. senz Jan 2016 #26
LOL, this is backwards.logic for the Clinton attacks. R B Garr Jan 2016 #33
Not in the least germane to anything. Sorry. n/t djean111 Jan 2016 #28
They're shocking me this morning. senz Jan 2016 #31
It's like Frank Luntz had a garage sale yesterday, or sold his old and really lame memes on ebay - djean111 Jan 2016 #35
Let's see. A wealthy ex-Republican criticizing R B Garr Jan 2016 #36
Hey, check out DWS's BFF, Patrick Murphy - turned from GOP in 2012 only because he wanted to djean111 Jan 2016 #42
Wow, an irrelevant dodge! R B Garr Jan 2016 #44
Not dodging anything. And "noted"? Am I on a scary list? Good grief! And bwah! djean111 Jan 2016 #47
Her wealth is totally germane. You don't get to R B Garr Jan 2016 #49
You don't get to decide what is germane and what is not, either, then. djean111 Jan 2016 #51
I don't care who you support. R B Garr Jan 2016 #52
k+r Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #61
kicking for the evening crowd amborin Jan 2016 #62

amborin

(16,631 posts)
13. Hillary recently stated that she planned to perpetuate Obama's policies; and it is the lax stance
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

of the Obama administration toward corporate criminal behavior that EW most recently bashed;

this is why EW is implicitly endorsing Bernie;

oasis

(49,388 posts)
11. Warren is the most progressive female in the US Senate
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

who has not endorsed Bernie Sanders.

See how that works?

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
12. We know who Warren endorses
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jan 2016

she can't say it publicly as she has to work with her democratic colleagues in the Senate (who are all endorsing Hillary) to get things done and doesn't want to alienate them.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
15. I was given to understand that being "up front" was
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

a required character standard for elected officials by Bernie supporters who have adopted this as part of their moral code. What gives?

enid602

(8,620 posts)
53. Senators
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

And I can think of many male Dem Senators who have not endorsed Bernie. In fact, I don't believe ANY of them have.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
17. Job security.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

Given the Clinton family's power and influence, I don't blame her.

Elizabeth Warren loathes the oligarchy. You should, too.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
29. Clinton has the clout and the will
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jan 2016

to make life very uncomfortable for any Democrat who opposes her. Especially if Clinton wins the nomination. Her vindictiveness is well-known. Warren knows all of this.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
32. I'm guessing you haven't come up with an adequate explanation
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jan 2016

for Warren's conspicuous tardiness in endorsing Bernie.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
37. That isn't the topic of this thread.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

So screw your question.

Start your own damn discussion in another OP, instead of hijacking someone else's. Unless of course, you think nobody will bother with it because they know it's rubbish.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
41. "Rubbish" you say? Apparently other posters don't share your view.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jan 2016

Tell you what, why don't you start a OP discussion with the caveat that you will be the only one to determine what is relevant?

P.s. If you do, Try expressing yourself in a polite manner.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
43. Why don't you try not hijacking other people's threads?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jan 2016

Or is that considered "polite" over in Camp Weathervane? Seems EXTREMELY rude to the rest of the world.


But then, anything to avoid discussing the actual truth, right?

oasis

(49,388 posts)
45. I thought Bernie supporters could seek the sanctuary of
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

their own protected DU group to post anti-Hillary stuff.

"Warren slams Hillary" pretty provocative OP title, wouldn't you say? I say it puts Warren up to the scrutiny she will get from me each time she's used to attack Hillary.

Each and every time, I feel it appropriate.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
46. I don't need "sanctuary."
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

Especially from transparently weak sauce people such as you. I see you still haven't had the guts to start an OP about the topic you used to try and derail this one. What's up with that? No guts, no glory.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
48. A "weak sauce" question that has been dodged and deflected
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jan 2016

from the start, so it must merit some further investigation.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
50. Wow...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

... just when you think the sauce is extra weak, the chef waters it down even more.

I'd ask you to step up to the plate, but clearly you're already headed to the showers.

See ya in Iowa.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
58. She's too smart to burn bridges?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jan 2016

She knows that she will have to support Clinton if she is the nominee and she will hope to have some influence. Moreso, if Hillary is elected.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
59. I wouldn't be surprised if Warren's fence sitting has earned her
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jan 2016

more than a few social media "scoldings" from the same crowd who, earlier, had attacked those who "actually endorsed" Hillary. If fear of retribution is the question, it makes more sense that she wants to avoid running the "Shame on you for not endorsing Bernie" gauntlet.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
60. Maybe to you
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jan 2016

More likely both are true.

But, my direct conversations with politicians who don't endorse avoid it because they know one or the other will win and they don't want to be on anyone's bad side.
Endorsers may face Clinton punishment or the wrath of voters. Elizabeth Warren along with many party elders are too smart to wade into that mess.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
3. And yet they have worked together many times and sat on the same panel a few months ago.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe somebody should send Senator Warren a link to this video she did not make.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
18. Of course. Both politics and government require civility and cooperation.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jan 2016

But don't think for a second that Elizabeth Warren would sell out her integrity and deepest convictions.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
57. Warren is the scourge of Wall Street; Hillary is owned by them.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jan 2016

You do understand that, don't you? Warren cannot possibly approve of Hillary's connections, favors, quid quo pro interactions with Wall Street and other large corporate entities. I am sure Elizabeth Warren knows exactly what Hillary is and how she operates.

But Warren is also pragmatic, needing to preserve her own position so as to continue her anti-Wall Street activities. So if, in a few weeks, it looks like Hillary has the nomination sewed up, Warren might very well "endorse" her -- in the sense of endorsing the Democratic nominee, not because she believes in anything Hillary is or does. There is no way Elizabeth Warren could possibly endorse Hillary's modus operandi. They are moral, ethical, and ideological opposites.

But who cares about these things as long as Hillary gets an endorsement, right?

Bear in mind that if Bernie does well, Warren could end up endorsing him -- and do so with much more enthusiasm.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
39. Polite, collegial friendliness, nothing more.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

From your link:

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.


I could say the same to you, pandr32. I could say, "Go for it!" It would be the nice thing to do, and if we were Senate colleagues and two of the small group of Democratic women Senators, it would be expected. We support each other.

That doesn't mean Elizabeth Warren, the scourge of Wall Street, supports the Wall Street candidate.


brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
5. Ah, a golden oldies station
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jan 2016

Wonder if it'll play the one where Warren encouraged Clinton to run and said she was "terrific"?

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
7. Apparently Elizabeth has changed her mind
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jan 2016

A politician's prerogative - she publicly urged Hillary to run, worked on bills together with Hillary, and refused to enforce Bernie. She hasn't endorsed anyone, probably because there is no point upsetting her followers who also like Sanders when she can sit back and let the political process get rid of Sanders before she endorses Hillary. Do you doubt Warren will eventually endorse Hillary?

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.


Elizabeth Warren: I hope Hillary Clinton runs for president

Notice this article is very recent. Return the old clip to the archives covered with spider webs where it belongs.

brooklynite

(94,585 posts)
38. Know what politicians like even more than political influence?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

Actually getting elected.

I take the guidance of people for whom winning elections is part of the job seriously. If they thought Clinton would lose, they wouldn't be with her. But perhaps you're more savvy than they are?

"If Sanders wins, we're in trouble"
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
55. I'd forgotten which Democrat it was.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

I am a fan of Sen. Feingold's and have sent him money. He could have meant a number of things by that, but assuming he is not aligned with the DLC/Third Way/"New" Dems (which I doubt), then he was probably speaking strategically. At the time, he may have thought Bernie could not win the GE, as this was before the polls showing Bernie doing better than Hillary against the major Republican candidates.

He might not say that today.



 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. This was empty, polite, collegial talk.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jan 2016

It is wise to be cordial and upbeat with one's colleagues.

But Elizabeth Warren would not sell her soul and support Clinton over Bernie. If Clinton unfortunately wins the primary, then Sen. Warren, as a Democrat, will of course support her.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
21. Elizabeth Warren's recent tweetL
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/01/29/did-elizabeth-warren-just-throw-hillary-under-the-bus-with-one-tweet-300071

Sen. Elizabeth Warren is perhaps the most sought after endorsement for the Democratic presidential candidates.

And if you believe her tweet from Friday, Hillary Clinton might want to think of a plan B.

The next president can honor the simple notion that nobody is above the law, but it will happen only if voters demand it.

— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) January 29, 2016

Ouch. That seems like a direct shot at former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Many social media users felt the same way.

Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/01/29/did-elizabeth-warren-just-throw-hillary-under-the-bus-with-one-tweet-300071#ixzz3yqWR0rV2

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
24. What are we going to do with Elizabeth Warren's $5.4 MILLION
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jan 2016

dollar mansion? Her teaching fees are reportedly several hundred thousand.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
26. What matters is what she supports, not what she owns.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jan 2016

Kennedy and FDR were wealthy also, but they served the people, not the oligarchs.

That is what matters.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
33. LOL, this is backwards.logic for the Clinton attacks.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jan 2016

Having wealth means you are evil and corrupt. Except for when you like the person. Then it's okay. Can't have it both ways.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
35. It's like Frank Luntz had a garage sale yesterday, or sold his old and really lame memes on ebay -
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

evidently the barrel has no bottom, or else they are scooping up crap and throwing it at the wall like Oscar Madison threw spaghetti. See if it sticks. Doesn't.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
42. Hey, check out DWS's BFF, Patrick Murphy - turned from GOP in 2012 only because he wanted to
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jan 2016

run against another Republican, votes with the GOP a lot, voted yes on creating the Benghazi panel, and has been embraced by DWS and Hillary. Did I mention that Murphy is wealthy?

Oh, and maybe you should give up on trying to use 'wealthy" as a pejorative.......

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
44. Wow, an irrelevant dodge!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

It's noted that you can't answer why a wealthy ex-Republican, trickle-down voting highly paid Senator is criticizing anyone else.

And now wealth is good! That is, as long as you like the person...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
47. Not dodging anything. And "noted"? Am I on a scary list? Good grief! And bwah!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

And I bet if Warren actually endorsed Hillary, the same people trying, unsuccessfully, to smear her would be celebrating.
Again, Warren's money is not germane to the conversation, and will not ever be germane to the conversation.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
49. Her wealth is totally germane. You don't get to
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

decide what is germane and what isn't. Anyone who voted for trickle down policy but now is a self-appointed criticizer can be countered in her beliefs and arguments.

And nice dodge again with the sidebar about endorsements. This was about her vulnerability as a self-important czar of wealth.

Oh. Yes the word "noted" means you are on a 'list". U betcha.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
51. You don't get to decide what is germane and what is not, either, then.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jan 2016

Bottom line - I will support Liz Warren in any way I can, and I will not support Hillary. Does not matter what you attempt to spin or dredge. That is all that this is about, really.
Have a great day!

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
52. I don't care who you support.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jan 2016

And it's not spin to say she is wealthy. Or an ex-Republican. Those are facts. What this is about is the phony Hillary hate when those you idolize have had the same benefits or more.

I like both women but videos like this don't tell an honest story. THAT'S what this was about. You don't get to decide for me what this was about.

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