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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:46 AM Jan 2016

State Sen. Nina Turner crushed it on MSNBC in support of Sen. Bernie Sanders!

Here are some quotes from former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner:

"Well all good Democrats should be fighting for universal health care. It is unfortunate that the Secretary (Clinton) has a different vision in 2016 than she had then (when she was 1st Lady) when she was fighting for universal health care."

"Nobody owns the Black vote. The Black vote should be earned. And it's curious to me that our folks are the only voting block where people assume which direction we are gonna go in."

"My message to the Black community this morning, and to all communities, is that no one should allow themselves to be taken for granted. And unfortunately lots of times the Democratic party, itself as a whole, has taken the African-American community for granted. So nobody owns our vote, they have to earn our vote."

"Sen. Sanders has the strongest racial justice program and platform of any candidate running for President - Democrat or Republican."

She quotes Tupac Shakur: "'We got money for wars but we can't feed the poor'"

"We cannot go from 'Yes We Can' to 'No We Can't'. "

"Senator Bernie Sanders is the symbol for all that is right in this country and he will continue to stand up and fight against the status quo. And that is why African-Americans should vote for him, 'cause we have been victims of the status quo for generations."

UPDATED with a link to the video: http://www.msnbc.com/up/watch/nina-turner-the-black-vote-should-be-earned-612763203706

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State Sen. Nina Turner crushed it on MSNBC in support of Sen. Bernie Sanders! (Original Post) KeepItReal Jan 2016 OP
She seemed desperate to me Sheepshank Jan 2016 #1
Bullshit. She had a friendly, respectful interview with Tamron Hall. KeepItReal Jan 2016 #5
You must be white. JRLeft Jan 2016 #12
Your assumptions sound more racist. Nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #15
It's true, the same reason Obama had to avoid being the angry black man. By the way I have no power. JRLeft Jan 2016 #37
sounds like whoever it is is a bit assumptionist PatrynXX Jan 2016 #36
I would say that Sheepshank's post suggests a limited cultural experience. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #114
She's passionate, brilliant, and brave. She knows her shit! JRLeft Feb 2016 #117
Right! JDPriestly Feb 2016 #119
Loud is a code word. JRLeft Feb 2016 #120
She has a strong, big voice and more power to her for it, JDPriestly Feb 2016 #128
Brilliant? Okay then cali Feb 2016 #123
Bingo! nikto Feb 2016 #124
You mean just one more angry (fill in your unPC) word of the day greiner3 Jan 2016 #22
Highly effective! As Bernie and Nina Turner Say, 'Enough is Enough, is Enough!' appalachiablue Jan 2016 #39
AWESOME S. Laysi Jan 2016 #50
To see Nina Turner's great support for Bernie now and her bright star rising is incredible! appalachiablue Jan 2016 #57
Wow! I love, love, love this: JDPriestly Feb 2016 #115
Vote for Ben Carson. frylock Jan 2016 #30
It's only Bernie supporters that are willing to vote Republican ...... Sheepshank Jan 2016 #43
Fail, Sheep. In fact, it's high level hill pal dems cali Jan 2016 #49
Hey man, whatever you want to believe. frylock Jan 2016 #62
Please post a list of Bernie supporters who have said they will vote GOP John Poet Jan 2016 #87
I think this poster means some of us are saying we SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #122
Link? cui bono Jan 2016 #91
Bernie Supporters voting Repuke? Duckfan Jan 2016 #109
I have not heard a single Bernie supporter say he or she was voting Republican AllyCat Feb 2016 #125
You come across as Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #32
Ahhhh...the old Bernie supporter judgments Sheepshank Jan 2016 #41
ROFL! Hillary Cannot Open Her YAP Without... YELLING LIKE A BANSHEE! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #33
I wonder why your compadres don't come out and call this post sexist? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #74
No. bvar22 Jan 2016 #92
Do you consider all people bvf Jan 2016 #100
Now that I have come out and called this post sexist tonybgood Feb 2016 #127
It is not a sexist comment. Both Hillary and Trump do it. Simple fact. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #113
Your post is sexist. tonybgood Feb 2016 #126
Oh good, accuse a POC of being loud and angry TransitJohn Jan 2016 #34
Likely when many talk about Cornell West. Sheepshank Jan 2016 #48
No one has to mention color, when your priveledge is as evident as the sun TransitJohn Jan 2016 #52
Did you call out post #33 as sexist? No? Then your hypocrisy is showing. Nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #75
Have you seen hilary's terrifying nevernever video? Voice for Peace Jan 2016 #79
Attention: if you think an eloquent, highly educated, black woman making some points you may Indepatriot Jan 2016 #47
Attention...you brought up race...not me Sheepshank Jan 2016 #51
I don't think you can back out Ichingcarpenter Jan 2016 #58
Brainwashed much? monicaangela Jan 2016 #64
Did you call out the 'code' on post #33. Sheepshank Jan 2016 #80
So you admit your mistake now? Lordquinton Jan 2016 #99
LOL! monicaangela Jan 2016 #101
If there were code involved I would have. monicaangela Jan 2016 #105
Let's see... if I opined that if Hillary had taken care of business at home, then perhaps Indepatriot Jan 2016 #73
Did you call out post #33 as sexist? No? Then your hypocrisy is showing. Nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #76
Didn't like that one? monicaangela Jan 2016 #56
God I love this girl. Always LEGIT. Always POWERFUL. johnlucas Jan 2016 #83
Yes, she is a powerful woman! monicaangela Jan 2016 #107
Great video. Thank you, Nina Turner. JDPriestly Feb 2016 #118
Angry ? Yelling ? Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #60
I don't know at all where you got that from RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #69
"OMG, look at the angry black woman!!!" Nice racism, there. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #72
Did you call out post #33 as sexist? No? Then your hypocrisy is showing. Nt Sheepshank Jan 2016 #77
I heard Rev. Al Sharpton give a speech IN PERSON... Duckfan Jan 2016 #110
That seems like a stereotypical white response John Poet Jan 2016 #84
Nothing wrong with the delivery of that speech WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2016 #96
did you get those descriptors hopemountain Jan 2016 #97
Proving nothing is too low for Hillary supporters FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #102
I saw her and she didn't come across that way to me Empowerer Jan 2016 #108
Some are desperate to end the corrupt culture that H. Clinton embraces. Why rhett o rick Feb 2016 #116
ah the "angry black woman" meme :( nt redruddyred Feb 2016 #121
Very good! H2O Man Jan 2016 #2
She was great. TDale313 Jan 2016 #3
I have admired her Jenny_92808 Jan 2016 #38
Nina Turner is Pure FIRE!!! LOVE her! johnlucas Jan 2016 #85
She is the shit!! jen63 Jan 2016 #103
This whole "taken for granted" thing is highly inaccurate KingFlorez Jan 2016 #4
It's always "taken for granted" wtawilltaw Jan 2016 #16
Obama gave us the ACA which has saved thousands of lives each year. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #129
"For a black guy he did zilch about the corrupt justice system" SunSeeker Feb 2016 #130
"Nothing good" came out of Obama's presidency? uppityperson Jan 2016 #78
In a nation where the system monicaangela Jan 2016 #61
The only thing I "assume" is that the polls are accurate nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #70
Nina is cool! immoderate Jan 2016 #6
I was happy to support her run for Ohio Secretary of State! KeepItReal Jan 2016 #7
She never fails to impress me. immoderate Jan 2016 #9
+1 monicaangela Jan 2016 #63
She'll be back. Nina's Legacy is far from over. johnlucas Jan 2016 #86
She's pretty awesome navarth Jan 2016 #111
Seeing the progressive passion in new faces is what makes this election so brilliant. Gregorian Jan 2016 #8
I agree Gregorian monicaangela Jan 2016 #67
To those who dismiss the Senator as "desperate" ... didn't watch what I watched. libdem4life Jan 2016 #10
Is Nina running this time? I am building a donation list. jwirr Jan 2016 #65
IDK, but she surely deserves a lot of thanks and support. libdem4life Jan 2016 #66
The sista is telling the truth. JRLeft Jan 2016 #11
Saw it...she was awesome. Punkingal Jan 2016 #13
no one should go hungry in a country that spends more than $1,000,000,000,000... SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #14
Huge +1! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #29
K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #17
K & R I like her.. always have. She's not afraid to speak out. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #18
The same Nina that couldn't win the Secretary Of Elections job.against bigdarryl Jan 2016 #19
She got 1 Million votes in Ohio in that SoS race. KeepItReal Jan 2016 #21
Yes! I was one of those actual voters. My wife too. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #28
That makes 3 monicaangela Jan 2016 #68
every time I see her she moves up a rung in my admiration and my pick list for Bernie's VP. Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #20
K&R! Duval Jan 2016 #23
Bernie is the one to carry Obama's banner NOT Hillary. She plainly said so. Read her lips: Hiraeth Jan 2016 #24
Yep. Her battle cry is "No we can't!"... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #54
She's good. Have enjoyed seeing her getting air time ms liberty Jan 2016 #25
Kicked and recommended to the Max! We love Senator Nina Turner in Ohio! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #26
I love Nina. She doesn't mince words. Vinca Jan 2016 #27
Nina Turner is one of the most heartfelt, most articulate people you could want supporting you. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #31
Donald Trump PatrynXX Jan 2016 #35
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #40
Hunh? Empowerer Jan 2016 #55
WTH? n/t jen63 Jan 2016 #104
That was awesome! She's awesome. Matariki Jan 2016 #42
Love her Oilwellian Jan 2016 #44
First time I saw her she was introducing him. This time I enjoyed it because the enthusiasm and libdem4life Jan 2016 #45
Crushed It Bigtime S. Laysi Jan 2016 #46
well said! whereisjustice Jan 2016 #53
What exactly is enough polynomial Jan 2016 #71
Nina Turner absolutely rocks! Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #81
I LOVE That Girl!!! Nina Turner is the REAL Daggone DEAL!! johnlucas Jan 2016 #82
Bravo! SoapBox Jan 2016 #88
Nina Turner sees and speaks with impressive clarity. senz Jan 2016 #89
"We cannot go from 'Yes We Can' to 'No We Can't'." cui bono Jan 2016 #90
I've liked Nina Turner for a while now and I was very happy she endorsed Sanders because she says Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #93
Would she be a zentrum Jan 2016 #94
I've wondered about that too eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #95
In my dreams! jen63 Jan 2016 #106
There you go. zentrum Jan 2016 #112
admire this woman's hopemountain Jan 2016 #98
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
1. She seemed desperate to me
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jan 2016

Angry, yelling and very aggressive. Her demeanor was not appealing at all. Her non verbal cues were overpowering her words.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
37. It's true, the same reason Obama had to avoid being the angry black man. By the way I have no power.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

You probably think I'm an angry black man too.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
114. I would say that Sheepshank's post suggests a limited cultural experience.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:11 AM
Feb 2016

We cannot help who we are. We cannot and should not change where we come from, how the culture we grew up in limits us.

But love takes us beyond our limitations.

Nina Turner sounds like love and passion to me.

And I just love her. I just think she is great. The warmth in her voice. Her cadence. The rhythm of her speech. The images. She is as much a poet as a politician.

appalachiablue

(41,135 posts)
39. Highly effective! As Bernie and Nina Turner Say, 'Enough is Enough, is Enough!'
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016


Packed House Sanders Campaign Rally in Cleveland, Ohio rocks to Nina Turner and Bernie message!

appalachiablue

(41,135 posts)
57. To see Nina Turner's great support for Bernie now and her bright star rising is incredible!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016


>Sen. Nina Turner FIRES UP! the Crowd in Cleveland for Bernie Sanders.

"We have a great crisis on our hands and we will not be neutral!"

"When I asked my grandmother the secret to success she said: the Wishbone, the Jawbone and the Backbone!"

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
115. Wow! I love, love, love this:
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:14 AM
Feb 2016

"When I asked my grandmother the secret to success she said: the Wishbone, the Jawbone and the Backbone!"

Thank you, Nina Turner.

Truer words were never spoken.

Take a Turn and feel the Bern!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
43. It's only Bernie supporters that are willing to vote Republican ......
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jan 2016

....when Bernie loses in the Primary. Your little one liner makes no sense.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
87. Please post a list of Bernie supporters who have said they will vote GOP
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jan 2016

if Bernie is not nominated.

I'll wait.

Otherwise STFU with this lying bullshit.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
122. I think this poster means some of us are saying we
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:54 AM
Feb 2016

won't vote for Hillary in the GE, which is the same thing as voting for a repugnant.

As for Bernie supporters actually voting for a repugnant if Hillary is the nominee.....

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
91. Link?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jan 2016

In fact, Bernie is the candidate who supports the true Democratic Party platform. Hillary is so far center/right you might as well vote for a Republican. Fighting against universal health care? As a Dem?????



Looking forward to seeing some quotes from Berniebros saying they're going to vote Republican though, thanks!

.

AllyCat

(16,187 posts)
125. I have not heard a single Bernie supporter say he or she was voting Republican
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 08:30 AM
Feb 2016

But lots of HRC people pushing for a Republican win with Bloomberg support.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
32. You come across as
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

racist. I see her as a strong outstanding person who is saying "you know the tree by the fruit that it bares."

I grew up in a racist place. When I went to high school, EVERY student was white. I heard a rumor that a black family moved into town years ago, but they were soon burned out (arson). How evil. Racism is evil. When I visited my grandparents one summer, I befriended an AA girl and just being with her going around town gave me a lesson on how bad racism is.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
41. Ahhhh...the old Bernie supporter judgments
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jan 2016

Have you been doing a lot of reading on DU since 2007? If so, you'd realize how absolutley ridiculous you sounded with that mislabeling.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
33. ROFL! Hillary Cannot Open Her YAP Without... YELLING LIKE A BANSHEE!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

What a cheap comment... Deriding an African American who is btw VERY articulate and informed in her strong support for the only reasonable choice for President among all of the candidates. Bernie Sanders is THE ONLY Choice for ALL Americans!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
74. I wonder why your compadres don't come out and call this post sexist?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

Oh right, they have an agenda to contors my words as racists simple because of who I support in the Primaries.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
92. No.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016

It is clear throughout this thread that you are more interested in flinging labels than having a discussion about the OP.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
100. Do you consider all people
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jan 2016

of Irish descent sexist? The nerve of them, assigning a gender to banshees, right?

You are correct in your sputtering outrage. Quite so.

tonybgood

(218 posts)
127. Now that I have come out and called this post sexist
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

will you concede the fact that your characterization could be construed as "racist"? Do you not see the code words you used could be misinterpreted? If you thought that the body language was inconsistent with the message, that would have been enough. Just recognize that people have different connotations for words; what you wouldn't consider offensive as a word or phrase can be offensive to someone else based on their experiences. Ultmiately, what you say says nothing about others but everything about yourself and your perspective. I don't think your intent was to be racist but we can't read your heart; only the words on the page.

tonybgood

(218 posts)
126. Your post is sexist.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

You were able to correctly identify a gender correct imaginary creature to portray Hillary. While I don't necessarily agree with the identification, you should be ashamed for using such a term. You should have used a non-gender specific characterization such as "liar", "fraud" or "untrustworthy". Cosider yourself excoriated!!! Have a good day.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
48. Likely when many talk about Cornell West.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jan 2016

I find it intersting that Bernie bathers have to tie my statement to color, whe there are just as many angry white or angry Latino persons speakig out for Bernie. I never mentioned color...you all did lol

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
47. Attention: if you think an eloquent, highly educated, black woman making some points you may
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jan 2016

disagree with is "angry,yelling, and very aggressive" you just may be a racist. You might want to reflect a little on your beliefs about people of color... is this The Blaze?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
51. Attention...you brought up race...not me
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

If Bernie's spokes person presented themselves the same way and were as white as Weaver, I'd have said the same thing...oh, and I did lol

My statement was color blind, you are attempting to change the narrative. It's a pretty low form of debate.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
58. I don't think you can back out
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016

of what you revealed in your 'angry' meme no matter how you try to backtrack it.

Oh... Nina rocks BTW

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
64. Brainwashed much?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jan 2016

Code has been used for so long in this nation, many use it without realizing they are doing so. So I consider those people either brainwashed, or dishonest if questioned about their use of the code.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
80. Did you call out the 'code' on post #33.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jan 2016

Of not, your hypocrisy nullifies anything you have to say.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
73. Let's see... if I opined that if Hillary had taken care of business at home, then perhaps
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jan 2016

Bubba wouldn't have been tom catting around, would that be sexist?

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
56. Didn't like that one?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

Here's another one and there are a lot more that are the same. I don't know what you were watching, but her interviews with Chris Hayes and anyone else on MSNBC have been as good or better:

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
83. God I love this girl. Always LEGIT. Always POWERFUL.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jan 2016

Man with people like Nina Turner in the mix, we GOTTA know that Bernie is gonna make it.
The Presidency is at hand. Bernie Is #45.

Let 'em KNOW Nina! Let' em KNOW!!
John Lucas

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
60. Angry ? Yelling ?
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jan 2016

So a womanthat has passion is desperate

But the other day when Hillary was yelling about "single-payer never ever ever come to pass"

It was okay ?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
69. I don't know at all where you got that from
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jan 2016

She seemed very sincere to me. She was not yelling, nor was she angry. She may have been aggressive, but that may be her nature.
But hey, what do I know, I was born and raised in the streets of Brooklyn, NY.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
110. I heard Rev. Al Sharpton give a speech IN PERSON...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jan 2016

....in calif. in 03 when Howard Dean was running for DNC Chair. If you have heard Sharpton before, he can give a speech that many could see as "angry." But when he spoke in Sacramento, he was not angry. He was supporting another candidate for DNC spot and simply pled his case. Was Martin Luther King angry when he gave his "I have a Dream" speech?

Didn't think so.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
84. That seems like a stereotypical white response
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jan 2016

to the words of an impassioned African-American.

(Speaking from what I hope is an enlightened white perspective.)

But that's ok. She wasn't speaking to you. OR to me.



hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
97. did you get those descriptors
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jan 2016

out of a "how to piss off a person of color" handbook?
seriously, at least take some cultural sensitivity training before coming on here to troll bullshit attacks on a woman who is greatly esteemed by her peers.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
102. Proving nothing is too low for Hillary supporters
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jan 2016

So a Black woman speaking her own mind equals angry now

Why isn't that just so Clinton

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
108. I saw her and she didn't come across that way to me
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jan 2016

I see you really got slammed for your comment, which I'm sure you did not mean to sound the way it did. However, please be mindful and sensitive to the fact that women, especially black women, are often accused of sounding hostile, aggressive, combative, and similarly pejorative terms when they are simply being assertive.

My take on her was that she sounded strong and enthusiastic. But as I was watching it, I thought, "Uh-oh - some people won't react well to this." Not because I thought she sounded angry or too forceful, but because I know how black women are often perceived.

I say this not to add to the pile on - which I thought was far nastier and hostile than your comment warranted - but as a friendly suggestion that you see this as a teaching moment.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
116. Some are desperate to end the corrupt culture that H. Clinton embraces. Why
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:18 AM
Feb 2016

would you want to support the Wealthy 1% over helping out the 16 million children living in poverty? I guess the fact that we are embroiled in a class war and the Clinton, an obvious member of the Aristocracy, IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.

 

Jenny_92808

(1,342 posts)
38. I have admired her
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

for a long time too. I thought she did great in that interview and I agree with her message about Bernie.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
85. Nina Turner is Pure FIRE!!! LOVE her!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

If you're from Ohio be proud that this woman represents your state.
And I'm not even talking about politically.
I'm just talking about her being a citizen of Ohio.

I love that girl. STRONG, FIERCE, & LEGIT. 100%.
John Lucas

jen63

(813 posts)
103. She is the shit!!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:38 PM
Jan 2016

As an Ohioan, I've been watching her for quite some time. Her personal story is amazing!! Hopefully, this will give her the national exposure that she should have.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
4. This whole "taken for granted" thing is highly inaccurate
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:56 AM
Jan 2016

Of course no one owns the black vote, but if it happens to shift a certain way it doesn't mean that people aren't thinking on their own or being owned by someone. The GOP has used lines like that before and they were inaccurate as well.

 

wtawilltaw

(16 posts)
16. It's always "taken for granted"
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jan 2016

Why do you think blacks are becoming more and more disinterested in the political circus? Even with the selection of a black president nothing good came out of it. It's ironic that the white guy is saying more about the capitalistic slavery institution than the black guy in office.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
59. Obama gave us the ACA which has saved thousands of lives each year.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

He didn't let perfect be the enemy of the good. It saved my brother's life. He now gets free health coverage through the ACA exchange here in California. That is a big fucking deal. To say that "nothing good" came out of the Obama administration -- on a Democratic board no less -- is ridiculous and shameful.

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #59)

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)
130. "For a black guy he did zilch about the corrupt justice system"
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:26 PM
Feb 2016

That is just not true.

President Obama fought for and signed the Fair Sentencing Act, reducing the disparity in penalties for the use of crack and powder cocaine. http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/03/fair.sentencing/

He has repeatedly moved to commute the sentences of nonviolent drug offenders. Last July he commuted 46 in one day, the most commutations in a single day since at least the administration of President Lyndon Johnson. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/07/13/here-are-the-46-people-whose-sentences-obama-just-commuted/

He has built a bipartisan consensus on criminal justice reform, with just one sentencing issue left to be worked out (as usual, a GOPer is the holdup). http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/criminal-justice-reform-obama/423789/

Here's more information on Obama's efforts and related challenges: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/07/obama_and_mass_incarceration_how_much_power_does_the_federal_government.html

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
61. In a nation where the system
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jan 2016

is rigged so that only two parties dominate, the AA vote is often taken for granted. Hillary Clinton feels that attaching herself to the coat tails of President Obama she will automatically gain the AA vote....I have to say she is sooooo mistaken it isn't funny. African Americans vote democratic the majority of the time because the republicans make no bones about their disdain for anyone that isn't white and male. Having said that, I have to say that the primaries are an opportunity for all democrats regardless of race, color or creed to voice their opinion on which way they feel the nation should go, and which politician they feel can take us there. Hillary believes that every AA would automatically wish to see the legacy of President Obama continued, but she is wrong in feeling that way. Many AA disagree with some of the policies of President Obama, and do not feel that the policies they do agree with will necessarily be carried on by Hillary and Bill Clinton, a couple that has been disastrous for the AA community during their last time in office. And yes I do mean their last time in office. As Bill said during his election, "vote for me and you get two for the price of one." If that's the case, this AA says we have had enough of those two.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
63. +1
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jan 2016

I also wish she had pulled it off, and also backed her bid for the office. I feel we could have rested a bit more assured if she were OSOS, I sure don't have any faith in our present OSOS.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
86. She'll be back. Nina's Legacy is far from over.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jan 2016

She's gonna be here for the long haul.
Who knows? One day you might get to vote for her as President.
And if that day comes, I will definitely join you.

Nina Turner is ALWAYS 100% LEGIT.
Just like your screenname she always Keeps It REAL.

John Lucas
P.S.: She's also 100% POWERFUL & 100% FIRE!!

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
8. Seeing the progressive passion in new faces is what makes this election so brilliant.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jan 2016

If H takes this election from the people, we still have the new found knowledge that our cause (not our party, per se) is supported by enough of the country that we can be viable.

We are legitimate, unlike what some in our party, and the media, would have us believe.

We have something to build upon.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
67. I agree Gregorian
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

and, if she does pull off a confiscation of the primary and wins the general, believe me she won't have a minutes peace while in office. The revolution will see to that.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. To those who dismiss the Senator as "desperate" ... didn't watch what I watched.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

Passionate: that's what comes from deeply held positions.

Speed of Speech: Fast...she had so much to say that little sound bites don't quite fit into.

Non Verbal faux pas: She never raised her hands or fist or laughed.

Powerful: That, she is and was. We need many more of Nina Turner-types and as Bernie's Coattails seem to indicate, the Revolution has already started.

Clear: No comment needed on that.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
19. The same Nina that couldn't win the Secretary Of Elections job.against
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jan 2016

That rightwing crazed person who has the job.now.I was.very surprised that she lost that election especially since there is a.large African American community in Cleveland so I don't know how relavent she is to trying to help.Sanders get.African Americans.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
21. She got 1 Million votes in Ohio in that SoS race.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jan 2016

In an non-Presidential election year.

That's 1 Million actual voters who think she's relevant.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
24. Bernie is the one to carry Obama's banner NOT Hillary. She plainly said so. Read her lips:
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jan 2016

No. We can't. How much plainer does she have to speak, people.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
54. Yep. Her battle cry is "No we can't!"...
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jan 2016

...and she reiterates it at every opportunity, criticizing her opponent for daring to try.

ms liberty

(8,577 posts)
25. She's good. Have enjoyed seeing her getting air time
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jan 2016

I would call her assertive, knowledgeable and confident. Love that she's supporting Bernie..

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
35. Donald Trump
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jan 2016

seems a fare amount of Black Vote is going towards him. Why maybe it is the fact he used to be a Liberal. Although the example one lady gave on why she switched from Hillary to Donald (oh duh same person) is because their jobs were shipped to China. Um lady Trump's clothing line is made in china, he'll continue to do that. oh and she says he speaks common sense that no one else is X_X Huffpoo 's fault

Response to PatrynXX (Reply #35)

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
45. First time I saw her she was introducing him. This time I enjoyed it because the enthusiasm and
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:53 PM
Jan 2016

intensity...as with the first...are undeniable.

S. Laysi

(4 posts)
46. Crushed It Bigtime
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jan 2016

I fully agree 1000% , Nina Turner is Spot On it!!!
BERNIE is the only running candidate that really has Our Fire In His Belly and HE'S READY to release it in all directions he can For We The People. FOR US NOT the big Corps at the top, no waiting to see which way the $$$$$ lobbyists is going to fly...BERNIE Is Our Real Deal PERIOD!!

polynomial

(750 posts)
71. What exactly is enough
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

What politics jumps out is obvious

The real honest question that will not be answered is the political basic rule, or for a fact of life.

What’s in it for that political person. Each politician wants to move up in power and money exampled by the vast majority of Congress or Senate are millionaires many times over.

From my view a difficult message, and a misnomer that was perpetrated by John F. Kennedy in his one liner. A reason Kennedy was dispelled in a very hash way.

“Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”

This can be easily thought of as here is a political person who should service his constituents but is asking what will he, Kennedy, get in return to help you the citizen, however, we know the one percenters are ahead of the pecking order.

The point is care must be taken in political stumping saying things over and over. As exampled by Obama “Yes We Can.” but confronted by those loading up Republicans bias bigots, banking frauds, Bush 911 war profiteers and Cheney Brigands “O’ no you won’t”.

Easy to upset someone in the Kennedy era, so they put blame it on the Russians, then, later Chinese, now Islamic crazy.

It does not matter white or Black person with natural human function recorded since the time of Christ. Money or position is in the evolving process.

With that said cutting to the chase Mrs. Turner after thoughtful in thinking didn’t get what she knows is her worth that is working through the ranks or is being advised in away were she did not get enough of enough of enough.

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
82. I LOVE That Girl!!! Nina Turner is the REAL Daggone DEAL!!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jan 2016

I can listen to Nina tear it up every single time!!
She is no phony. That woman is 100% LEGIT.
These are the people who remind you that all people in politics aren't garbage.
People like Nina Turner are the reason why we keep voting.
Every now & then a real person with real conviction gets into a governmental seat.

I can listen to Nina Turner all day long & for the rest of the week.
She is a MAJOR credit to Bernie's campaign & she will do wonders when it comes to getting out the vote.

The woman is TOO fierce & TOO strong!!
If she ever runs for President one day, I got her back.

Girl makes me wish I was from Ohio myself sometimes!
All Ohioans should be proud to have Nina Turner representing your state.

John Lucas

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
88. Bravo!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jan 2016

Thank you Nina!



(Remember Hill's book...It Takes a Village...?...guess times have changed as now it takes Wall Street.)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
89. Nina Turner sees and speaks with impressive clarity.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

She is outstanding, and I hope she has political ambitions beyond the Ohio legislature, because she could do so much for the entire nation.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
90. "We cannot go from 'Yes We Can' to 'No We Can't'."
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

That right there says it all. You cannot expect to engage young people if you are a pessimist. Youth need something to look forward to, they need to feel they will be able to achieve the life they deserve, they need optimism.

Bernie is the only viable candidate bringing that to the table.

Period.

.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
93. I've liked Nina Turner for a while now and I was very happy she endorsed Sanders because she says
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jan 2016

what she means and means what she says much like Bernie does, she's to the point and no nonsense.

jen63

(813 posts)
106. In my dreams!
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jan 2016

She's just held state office so far. I hope this election catapults her though, and some day she'll have my vote for potus!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
112. There you go.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jan 2016

That's it. I see futures for her, Warren and O'Malley.

Don't know much about this woman but will follow her now.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
98. admire this woman's
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

brain & heart tremendously - and yes, she would be a dynamite running mate. wouldn't that be something tremendous for america? yes!

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