2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuad City Times-Democratic Endorsement: Only Sanders can shift the Democratic paradigm
Americans are tired of the hollow rhetoric. They're tired of two parties that, in a lot of ways, mirror each other. Any Democrat looking for a clear choice in the general election should caucus Monday for Sen. Bernie Sanders
Yes, Sanders of Vermont is an avowed socialist. Yes, he's pledged to raise taxes, particularly on the affluent. Sanders is challenging economic policy that is rotting the guts of the American experiment. And, of even greater importance, he's consistently done so for years.
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In 2008, voters rejected Clinton for what they thought was a new era of political discourse. Obama has had his moments, for sure. But his supporters didn't get the new-century paradigm shift they desired. The corporatism persisted. Special interests and the wealthy continue to own Washington. Clinton is incapable of changing that. She's just too plugged in.
If the Democratic Party is to move forward, it must abandon its compromised policy and differentiate itself come November. Only Sanders can accomplish that goal.
http://qctimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/democratic-endorsement-only-sanders-can-shift-the-democratic-paradigm/article_7929ecca-0390-5892-91fa-ad60c835b5af.html
benny05
(5,322 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Peace to you.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Should, by some unfathomable miracle, HRH win the nomination, there will be no "Democratic Party" left for the next voting cycle. However, there WILL BE a very large and PROGRESSIVE Party to take the reigns away from the corrupt establishment.
People who say they're Democrats. = ONLY 29%!
People who actually admit to being REPUBLICANS = ONLY 26%!
People who left BOTH parties in disgust = 43%!! INDEPENDENTS
After this election, if HRH is the nominee, the so-called "Democratic" party is finished. They'll be lucky to have 25% support and no party can survive with those numbers! Their downfall is on the horizon and it's by their own hand....greed, corruption, ignoring the will of the people and their blatant disdain toward the TRUE PROGRESSIVES /TRUE LIBERALS that have always voted for them. No more. The relationship ends in 2016 if HRH is the nominee.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
ms liberty
(8,578 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)Though they did endorse Pres Obama both times, if I recall correctly
jhart3333
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If the Democratic Party is to move forward, it must abandon its compromised policy and differentiate itself come November. Only Sanders can accomplish that goal.
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Skwmom
(12,685 posts)taxes for years, doesn't explain what taxes he is proposing, praises Clinton and lauds O'Malley on at the bottom.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 31, 2016, 05:02 AM - Edit history (1)
They do state that Bernie's tax proposals are aimed particularly at the affluent.
I took it as Bernie has been challenging against our dysfunctional and corrupted establishment for years but there shouldn't have been a period before the word "and" at the beginning of the last sentence.
Yes, Sanders of Vermont is an avowed socialist. Yes, he's pledged to raise taxes, particularly on the affluent. Sanders is challenging economic policy that is rotting the guts of the American experiment. And, of even greater importance, he's consistently done so for years.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Go Bernie!
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)We can either choose to be ruled by "We the People" (Bernie) for the benefit of "We the People" or we can choose to continue to allow the elite few of the Ruling Class to make all of our decisions for us (Hillary or Republicans), since they have done such a good job of keeping their metaphorical boot to our collective throat, so far....
It must take a peculiar sort of mental illness to prefer that our government continue to be ruled by our corporate uberlords, at a time when we are being given a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to establish government BY AND FOR WE THE PEOPLE! Call it, perhaps, "Collaborator Syndrome." They do what they know in their hearts to be wrong, because . . . it's her turn???
The truth we all know is that Hillary would be business as usual . . . same old same old. And the adults of this country don't have time for those games any more, we have to start the necessary redistribution of wealth in this country before the economy collapses from the colossal weight of the corporatocracy.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Thanks, Uncle Joe.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)of moving into the future on a rock solid foundation.
Of course, it wouldn't be first time irony has taken hold, Reagan was one of our eldest Presidents and he set the frame for decades, even President Obama praised him as a transformational President.
I believe Bernie has the ability and determination to correct that misguided course.
Peace to you, senz.
senz
(11,945 posts)On the surface, he has always seemed kind, low key, serious. I'd been hearing him for close to ten years on Thom Hartmann every Friday, a nice, sincere, well-informed Congressman and then Senator. When he started talking about running for president, it was just an idea with the intent of moving Hillary to the left. He was undecided for quite awhile, then tossed his hat in the ring.
And it took off. The big ol' world out there was ready for Bernie like they'd been waiting for him. The unofficial world, that is. The official world, the establishment, wanted to sweep him under the rug and forget about him. But it grew and grew and grew like a weed until it was so big they had to stand back and wonder at it. "How did it get this big?"
It's so good, he's so good, the people who respond to him are so tuned in, that I'm almost afraid to let myself hope as much as I do. I really want this to happen. The people of this country are trying so hard and suffering so much, they deserve this chance. The beauty we once knew in America's promise deserves this chance. The polluted, dying natural world deserves this chance.
Maybe we all just have to believe we deserve it. To know that we do.
Thanks for being so easy to talk to, Uncle Joe.