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babylonsister

(171,074 posts)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:13 PM Feb 2012

Looks Like There's a New GOP Frontrunner




http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/02/10/looks_like_theres_a_new_gop_frontrunner.html

February 10, 2012

Looks Like There's a New GOP Frontrunner


Early indications from two polls in the field -- Public Policy Polling and Gallup -- show Rick Santorum either taking over the lead among Republican voters nationally or at least tied with Mitt Romney.

A new Fox News poll also shows Santorum surging and in the last two days the poll was in the field he moved into a dead heat with Romney, 30% to 30%.
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Looks Like There's a New GOP Frontrunner (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2012 OP
Santorum Comes From Behind! The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2012 #1
"Santorum Comes From Behind!" CTyankee Feb 2012 #62
"A new Fox News poll also shows Santorum surging" Botany Feb 2012 #2
that works. barbtries Feb 2012 #3
You might not want to do that...it can get messy. Lochloosa Feb 2012 #14
Oh Boy!.... Little Star Feb 2012 #4
No ... Trajan Feb 2012 #54
How can it be? Are there really so many crazy people out there? People who sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #6
with his blatantly racist remarks eyewall Feb 2012 #35
Without them, he wouldnt be quakerboy Feb 2012 #50
I can't disagree eyewall Feb 2012 #57
Go Rick go!!! center rising Feb 2012 #7
BAHAHA! yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2012 #8
I'm honestly surprised Sick Rick has gotten more support until now. BlueStater Feb 2012 #9
You didn't list Iliyah Feb 2012 #20
I live in Pa, and I have always said he would be formidable in the primary Cosmocat Feb 2012 #60
Romney back to his 29 point ceiling lol grantcart Feb 2012 #10
The GOP primary has had more lead changes than a Nascar race. nt auburngrad82 Feb 2012 #11
Except that Nascar veers left throughout the race n/t Gore1FL Feb 2012 #32
Surge on libodem Feb 2012 #12
If this were being reported like the horse race it is, it would sound like this...... DFW Feb 2012 #13
Hahahahaha! babylonsister Feb 2012 #15
Excellent, DFW! kag Feb 2012 #17
Thanky son! DFW Feb 2012 #42
That'd be gal! kag Feb 2012 #53
I stand corrtected. My humble apologies! DFW Feb 2012 #55
Wow. excellent. kag Feb 2012 #56
If you like history, then you'd definitely like much of the rest of my book DFW Feb 2012 #58
it's things like this that make we wish we had a "like" button for individual posts renate Feb 2012 #19
Thanks! Remember me when my first novel comes out! DFW Feb 2012 #41
DUZY! Raine1967 Feb 2012 #24
Damn, you're good! Hope you don't mind if I share it. All credit to you, of course. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #25
Feel free! DFW Feb 2012 #39
Touche! BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #27
This is a DUZY Hutzpa Feb 2012 #30
Well, apparently not. We'll survive. DFW Feb 2012 #51
Not Beetlebaum? Kennah Feb 2012 #37
This is what you get for living in Düsseldorf and not frequent DU too much DFW Feb 2012 #40
........ trusty elf Feb 2012 #43
Yep, that just about says it all! DFW Feb 2012 #45
This one has video Kennah Feb 2012 #48
You might also enjoy Der Fuehrer's Face Kennah Feb 2012 #49
Fantastic, wish this was an original post. You'd get tons of Rec's. Paper Roses Feb 2012 #44
Maybe you didn't see my Republican Debate Christmas Carol? DFW Feb 2012 #46
Please post this as it's own op DonCoquixote Feb 2012 #47
That was so funny Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #52
Never been an election like this one Ian62 Feb 2012 #65
Hmmmm..... I might just have to vote for crazy Ricky in the primary groundloop Feb 2012 #16
Santorums driving the clown car JJW Feb 2012 #18
Newter or Insantorum would be...... Swede Atlanta Feb 2012 #21
Quick, Mitt's SuperPACs, you gotta gin up some attack ads aimed at Santorum. tclambert Feb 2012 #22
I bet the other rethug candidates are kicking themselves for dropping out earlier. caveat_imperator Feb 2012 #23
Heil Jesus oldhippydude Feb 2012 #26
Frothy is oozing ahead. TxVietVet Feb 2012 #28
A new month, a new frontrunner. white_wolf Feb 2012 #29
In two weeks time we might just be looking Hutzpa Feb 2012 #31
The real front-runner Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #33
As hilarious tfrey1225 Feb 2012 #34
Santroum and Bachmann the crazies dream ticket. sarcasmo Feb 2012 #36
Frothy and Batshit JenniferJuniper Feb 2012 #38
I think he'll peter out. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #59
This is where they stand today, knee deep in the quicksand of the GOP race to the edge . . Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #61
+1. Good info nt ecstatic Feb 2012 #64
Wha a scary thought ecstatic Feb 2012 #63

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
1. Santorum Comes From Behind!
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
Feb 2012

Each new not-Romney frontrunner is nuttier than the last, but Rick will be a tough act to follow.

Let's keep those Google hits coming...

Botany

(70,518 posts)
2. "A new Fox News poll also shows Santorum surging"
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:17 PM
Feb 2012


You go w/ Ricky you crazy kids.

Nominee Bob Casey, Jr. Rick Santorum
Party Democratic Republican
Popular vote 2,392,984 1,684,778
Percentage 58.6% 41.3%

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
3. that works.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:20 PM
Feb 2012

the democrats will wipe the floor with....never mind that, we can beat the **** out of that moron.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
54. No ...
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:13 AM
Feb 2012

First Bachmann, THEN Perry, THEN Cain, THEN Gingrich, THEN Santorum ....

Hah ... A first class Fool's Parade ...

(Really; I'm not clear if Perry or Cain was first - Who the fuck cares ! .... )

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
5. How can it be? Are there really so many crazy people out there? People who
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:28 PM
Feb 2012

want a know-nothing president? People who want to give up their personal choices about what religion they should follow and what they do with their own bodies? I just can't comphrend how any sane person could vote for this self-righteous prick!

Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #5)

eyewall

(674 posts)
57. I can't disagree
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 12:22 PM
Feb 2012

but I'm still hoping this is a minority, visible only because of media promotion, and there exists a large population of rank and file who just don't pay a lot of attention to primary politics. If the idiocy or the racism continues into the general election then a huge chunk of red voters may evaporate.

I dream...

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
9. I'm honestly surprised Sick Rick has gotten more support until now.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 02:11 PM
Feb 2012

Extremely religious. Anti-gay. He seems like the GOP's wet dream candidate.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
20. You didn't list
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 04:19 PM
Feb 2012

"hates women". To him and the very crazy right religious wingers, a women purpose 1) making babies 2) pleasing a man.

Ummmmmmmm, when will Ron Paul become the first runner, shit, he should also have a shot too!

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
60. I live in Pa, and I have always said he would be formidable in the primary
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:57 PM
Feb 2012

and, frankly, as it is turning out, it is a darn good thing he got taken down in 06, because if he was a sitting senator he would have likely been their candidate in 2000, and been a lot stronger than McCain.

He is ROCK solid in all three key areas for republicans.

1) Unabashed in his intention to drive religion into government.
2) As big a war hawking politician as there is.
3) He ran the K street operation for the Rs when he was in the senate, so he is in with big business.

He is tough, a VERY hard campaigner, and smarter than your average wing nuts R - he has a JD.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
13. If this were being reported like the horse race it is, it would sound like this......
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 03:14 PM
Feb 2012

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand THEY'RE OFF!

And it's Bachmann by a length! Wait, make that half a length! Now it's Perry making a run from the outside, and he's taken over the lead with Cain passing Bachmann from the inside. They're pushing and kicking, and now it's Cain by a length!! Cain in the lead, Bachmann falling behind, Romney in the middle, Gingrich near the rear and Ron Paul, Santorum and Huntsman at the rear. Huntsman? Who's he? Someone get me the list. Is that the jockey or the horse?

Aaaaand now they've rounded the first quarter, and it's Gingrich starting to make a move..wait, no he isn't--wait...no, he is, ahh who the hell knows what he's doing? Romney's coming up fast--wait, no, all the rest of them are going slower. Now it's Santorum and Romney neck and neck with Gingrich using cyanide-tipped spurs trying to catch them. Huntsmann seems to be running out of financing and gas. He's dropping out! Cain seems to have slipped on a patch of melted mozzarella!! He's dropping out too. Bachmann dropped out a while ago, and is now downing kool aid at the Fox News booth, but we didn't notice with all the activity still on the track. Where's Perry? He was there a minute ago! Perry dropped out to pray and has endorsed Gingrich! No one noticed, not even Gingrich!

Rounding the half-way point, it's Romney! No, it's Gingrich! No, it's Romney! No, it's Santorum! Where did he come from? He leads by a length with Romney looking forward, backward, and sideways. Gingrich has dropped his cyanide-tipped spurs and is taking out an Adelson assault pistol! He's aiming it at Romney. It backfires! Santorum has now pulled even with Romney, and they are both riding neck and neck backwards! What a race, ladies and gentlemen!! It's Santorum and Romney! Gingrich is frothing at the mouth! Look out, there's someone pulling up on the outside!!

He's gaining, and the crowd is finally waking up! No, the crowd is going wild with excitement. Romney and Santorum are now two lengths behind and Gingrich is jabbing sea urchin spines into both horses' asses! The newcomer is pulling away with this. It's NONEOFTHEABOVE by two lengths!!!!! Out of the middle of nowhere!!! What a race!

Pulling into the home stretch, it's NONEOFTHEABOVE by three lengths with Romney and Santorum pulling sea urchin spines out of their haunches, and Gingrich behind them wondering why he is still behind them, with Ron Paul stuck in the last century! And the winner is..................................


Barack Obama, who has been waiting for the rest of them from behind the finish line since ten seconds after this ridiculous race began. What did you expect?


P.S. Ron Paul has announced his exploratory committee for the next race.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
42. Thanky son!
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 06:29 AM
Feb 2012

I did a better job with Robert Packard and Thomas Jefferson, though..............

DFW

(54,410 posts)
55. I stand corrtected. My humble apologies!
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:56 AM
Feb 2012

My wife is a married woman, too. Must be some some kind of catching trend.

As for Thomas Jefferson, I tell you what. My agent is searching for a publisher at the moment, but as my book is copyrighted by me, I guess I have the author's permission to post a small excerpt here.

What's going on is that, through an accident of nature, a French-speaking wannabe wine connoisseur in California in 2010 gets two windows to the past, one to France in 1860 and the other in 1818 Virginia. He falls in love with a French woman from 1860, but doesn't know what to do about it. He becomes friends with Jefferson, and discusses his situation with him (and also buys some bottles from Jefferson's private cellar which he sells for a fortune in his own time). Here is a part of Robert's final dialogue with Jefferson:


“Mr. President, there is one thing I would like to ask you, and I can’t ask anyone in my own time. There is one other portal besides this one. It leads to the Bordeaux region of France in the year 1860.”

“My, my,” mused Jefferson, “I hope the wine is as good that far in the future as it was when I was there.” That far in the future. The concept of the year 1860 being “far in the future” was, needless to say, rather novel to me.

“Oh, it is,” I assured him. “I have tried it. A huge plague befell, er, or rather, will befall the region in 1870, and most of the vines will perish. Only a very few will survive, but Bordeaux wine will live on, not only at home, but in California, Australia, South Africa, Chile, many places.”

“Fascinating, but please leave it at that,” Jefferson cut me off. “Remember, Robert, I can’t know any of this, and it would risk much if I were to let on by casual error that I did.”

“Sorry, sir,” I said. “I got carried away by the moment. About what I wanted to ask you…”

“Go on,” he prodded.

“There’s a woman there. In Bordeaux, I mean. I’ve fallen hopelessly in love with her. She speaks no English, and I can’t bring her to my world. To be with her, I would have to abandon my own world, with no recourse of return should I regret my decision, go to an era where creature comforts I take for granted do not exist, and I would have to gnash my teeth and keep silent about everything I know that is going to happen, every armed conflict, every cataclysmic world event. But I have waited all my life to feel this way about a woman, and I feel it is worth the risk. Am I crazy to contemplate this? Should I abandon the thought?”

Jefferson pondered. “I had only ten years with my Martha. She died before her thirty-fourth birthday. I was devastated. I must have spent three weeks inside a room in utter despair. Much later, I took up with someone that was completely illicit, at least in my day.”

“It’s all right, Mr. President, we all know about Sally Hemings, and don’t consider it a stain on your legacy at all.”

Jefferson looked stunned. “Really? You all know about Sally? Please don’t even tell me how. I don’t want to know. You can’t imagine what a scandalous thing this is in my time. Our country, then, has truly become the beacon of enlightenment we hoped--Franklin, Madison, the others.”

“Well, not entirely, I’m afraid,” I answered. “There are still strong, even violent forces of reaction that would bring the country back to the days when people were burned at the stake for such things. But they are a distinct minority, to be sure.” I didn’t want to get into the Texas School Board. “We even abolished slavery entirely in 1865.”

“It took that long? I failed in my efforts to get slavery abolished over the years, although I still hold some slaves myself to this day. Ironic, isn’t it? Many of us who were part of the beginning of this country envisioned abolishing slavery altogether by 1808. As president, I even signed a law back in 1808 banning the slave trade with Africa. Some of us had hoped to have slavery abolished by then, but we underestimated the resistance from the southern states, whose economies depended upon its continued existence. From what you say, it took far longer than any of us thought it would. I am glad to hear that it was finally done away with, although I imagine it had enormous economic consequences for the southern states. I’m sure some of them must have had a few objections.”

Oh, just a few, yeah. I didn’t comment on that.

He went on, “There will always be a conflict between the forces of free thought and enlightenment against those of glorified ignorance, control and darkness, I suppose,” Jefferson said. “But as long as they are beaten back by the forces of light and truth, they can be a tolerable evil—indeed, perhaps a useful one, so as to point out by example what is not worthy of aspiration and is to be avoided. I gather from what you’re leading up to that you want my opinion as to whether you’re right to consider abandoning your present life for what, to you, would be the more simple life in an era you would find, superficially, at least, to be primitive?”

“That is basically it in a nutshell,” I admitted.

“In a nutshell,” Jefferson repeated. “Nice little expression. You got that from Hamlet?”

“Umm, no, it’s a common phrase in my day. Is it from Hamlet?”

“Originally, yes. It is very apt. The evolution of language is never-ending. I’m glad you’ve given me a glimpse into what’s become of English in America. It certainly has evolved beyond anything we recognize as contemporary, which is only natural. But back to your question. You’ve said you’re married, but that your wife has left you and has petitioned for a legal dissolution of your marriage, correct?”

“Quite correct,” I confirmed.

“This is feasible in your day, and you have lost whatever affection you had for her long before this little marvel here occurred, correct?”

“Correct again.”

“Well, then, I’ll tell you what I think. But let me preface this by saying that I tell you this as one who has taken reckless risks in life. My affair with Sally may not raise eyebrows in your era, but in mine, it would be grounds for shunning me completely or even worse. This doesn’t even take into account the risk we all took in taking up arms to separate from Britain so many years ago. It cost years of hardship, and many lives were either lost or disrupted forever. The human cost was incalculable. What we call the American Revolution is still called the War of Rebellion in England. But the end result was a miraculous political experiment the likes of which has never been seen on this earth, at least not since the age of Pericles. From what you tell me, it has turned out far from perfect, and so is still a work in progress. But it is a never-ending path, the course of human events. Actually, I used that phrase…”

“In the Declaration of Independence,” I completed. “We all learn your words in school: ‘When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another…’”

A smile formed on his face, spreading to a wide beaming. “That is one of the most pleasing things I’ve learned from you, Robert. Thank you. You’ve truly made my day.”

I managed—just barely—to keep from chuckling and telling him that “make my day” was a familiar phrase, too, but not because of him. I think I would have had a difficult time explaining Dirty Harry to Thomas Jefferson.

© by me--stay tuned for if and when the book is published!

kag

(4,079 posts)
56. Wow. excellent.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 11:28 AM
Feb 2012

Thank you for sharing this. I, too, am a writer, but I do mostly non-fiction. American History, so your excerpt is quite poignant from where I sit. I've only published one, and I self-published. If you're interested (but certainly no expectations)...

http://www.mountainstormpress.com

Please let me know if you get it published. I have truly enjoyed reading this.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
58. If you like history, then you'd definitely like much of the rest of my book
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Feb 2012

Its subject matter sort of wanders, but history plays a big part. In the scene where Robert
first meets Jefferson, Jefferson asks his location, and when Robert tells him he's in California,
Jefferson remarks "most impressive!" and Robert wonders why his being from California is
impressive. Jefferson remarks that he speaks excellent English for a Mexican. In his excitement
at meeting Thomas Jefferson, Robert has totally forgotten that in 1818, California was decades
away from becoming part of the United States.

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. it's things like this that make we wish we had a "like" button for individual posts
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 03:58 PM
Feb 2012

Great writing!

DFW

(54,410 posts)
41. Thanks! Remember me when my first novel comes out!
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 06:28 AM
Feb 2012

If I'm gonna hit the NYT bestseller list, someone has to buy the first copy! LOL

DFW

(54,410 posts)
39. Feel free!
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 05:52 AM
Feb 2012

It was just an after-dinner thought I had last night. I probably could have done a better job if I had spent any time on it.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
51. Well, apparently not. We'll survive.
Sun Feb 12, 2012, 12:55 AM
Feb 2012

If that's the worst thing that happens to me all week, I'm off to a fabulous week! LOL

DFW

(54,410 posts)
40. This is what you get for living in Düsseldorf and not frequent DU too much
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 06:26 AM
Feb 2012

Who or what is Beetlebaum?

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
44. Fantastic, wish this was an original post. You'd get tons of Rec's.
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 12:22 PM
Feb 2012

It is the funniest thing I've read in quite a while. Lets hear more of you! It is great to laugh while shaking your head in wonder of it all.

DFW

(54,410 posts)
46. Maybe you didn't see my Republican Debate Christmas Carol?
Sat Feb 11, 2012, 01:23 PM
Feb 2012

(To the tune of Deck The Halls)

Fill the halls with vows of folly
Fa la la la LA la LA LA LA
Smarter words come from my collie
Fa la la la LA la LA LA LA
Doesn’t matter who is hosting:
Fa la la, la la la, LA LA LA
Phony facts and empty boasting
Fa la la LA la LA LA LA

Hear the G O P debating
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA
Lots of ranting and berating
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA
Fun like monkeys in a barrel
Fa la LA, la la LA, LA LA LA
They will not don “gay” apparel!
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA

2.
Hear the words of Newt and Herman!
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA
What they mean, you can’t determine,
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA
Paul and Hunstman acting saner,
Fa la LA, la la LA, LA LA LA
Bachmann is the true “no-brainer!”
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA

Try to figure out Rick Perry
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA
Not too bright, but he is hairy
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA
Romney lectures Christian clerics
Fa la LA, la la LA, LA LA LA
Watch Obama in hysterics!
Fa la la la LA, la LA LA LA

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
16. Hmmmm..... I might just have to vote for crazy Ricky in the primary
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 03:22 PM
Feb 2012

I've been contemplating how to spend my vote when the primary comes to town. Crazy Rick might just be a better gift to Democrats than even Gingrich.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
21. Newter or Insantorum would be......
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 04:22 PM
Feb 2012

a godsend to Obama in November. Both are crazy, Newt because he believes he is a God and Insantorum because he wants to establish a Catholic theocracy here. Obama would win by a landslide in either case.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
22. Quick, Mitt's SuperPACs, you gotta gin up some attack ads aimed at Santorum.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 04:39 PM
Feb 2012

Hint: Use the word frothy a lot.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
26. Heil Jesus
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 05:13 PM
Feb 2012

this is fantastic news..maybe he can get some money folks behind him.. the race could be entertianing running against a theocrat..

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
28. Frothy is oozing ahead.
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 05:36 PM
Feb 2012

Good. I think Obama can beat him easily. Better than Rmoney. After CPAC, we shall see. Conservanazis don't like Willard because he's not a real conservanazi. Just another phony POS. Goodbye, Willard.

tfrey1225

(34 posts)
34. As hilarious
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 07:04 PM
Feb 2012

as the idea of Rick Santorum being the GOP's nominee is, I can't help but feel sad at the state of America in 2012. I mean ideally Rick Santorum would be laughed off the stage or thrown in the loony bin rather than be seen as a serious contender for the Presidency. I am confident that the majority of Americans are smart enough to not vote for Santorum but it's sad that any significant portion of the populace supports him or could support him.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
59. I think he'll peter out.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:17 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

He didn't get many delegates last week and he lost pretty bad in Maine on Saturday. I think he has concentrated on being the "also ran" too much during this campaign. He never sounded like a leader, he sounded more like a lap dog.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
61. This is where they stand today, knee deep in the quicksand of the GOP race to the edge . .
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:08 PM
Feb 2012

. . of the cliff.

2012 GOP Klown Kar Delegate Tracker:

Romney 123
Santorum 72
Gingrich 32
Paul 19
Huntsman 2

1,144 needed to nominate.

Next up -- Arizona and Michigan on the 28th

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