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February 10, 2012
Looks Like There's a New GOP Frontrunner
Early indications from two polls in the field -- Public Policy Polling and Gallup -- show Rick Santorum either taking over the lead among Republican voters nationally or at least tied with Mitt Romney.
A new Fox News poll also shows Santorum surging and in the last two days the poll was in the field he moved into a dead heat with Romney, 30% to 30%.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)Each new not-Romney frontrunner is nuttier than the last, but Rick will be a tough act to follow.
Let's keep those Google hits coming...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)DUzy!
Botany
(70,518 posts)You go w/ Ricky you crazy kids.
Nominee Bob Casey, Jr. Rick Santorum
Party Democratic Republican
Popular vote 2,392,984 1,684,778
Percentage 58.6% 41.3%
barbtries
(28,799 posts)the democrats will wipe the floor with....never mind that, we can beat the **** out of that moron.
Lochloosa
(16,066 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)The elite in that party are gonna have a hard time with this!
First Gingrich, Now Santorum
Trajan
(19,089 posts)First Bachmann, THEN Perry, THEN Cain, THEN Gingrich, THEN Santorum ....
Hah ... A first class Fool's Parade ...
(Really; I'm not clear if Perry or Cain was first - Who the fuck cares ! .... )
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)want a know-nothing president? People who want to give up their personal choices about what religion they should follow and what they do with their own bodies? I just can't comphrend how any sane person could vote for this self-righteous prick!
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eyewall
(674 posts)I can't believe he's still a candidate.
quakerboy
(13,920 posts)eyewall
(674 posts)but I'm still hoping this is a minority, visible only because of media promotion, and there exists a large population of rank and file who just don't pay a lot of attention to primary politics. If the idiocy or the racism continues into the general election then a huge chunk of red voters may evaporate.
I dream...
center rising
(971 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)I almost spit up my coffee laughing!
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Extremely religious. Anti-gay. He seems like the GOP's wet dream candidate.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)"hates women". To him and the very crazy right religious wingers, a women purpose 1) making babies 2) pleasing a man.
Ummmmmmmm, when will Ron Paul become the first runner, shit, he should also have a shot too!
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)and, frankly, as it is turning out, it is a darn good thing he got taken down in 06, because if he was a sitting senator he would have likely been their candidate in 2000, and been a lot stronger than McCain.
He is ROCK solid in all three key areas for republicans.
1) Unabashed in his intention to drive religion into government.
2) As big a war hawking politician as there is.
3) He ran the K street operation for the Rs when he was in the senate, so he is in with big business.
He is tough, a VERY hard campaigner, and smarter than your average wing nuts R - he has a JD.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)auburngrad82
(5,029 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)Cum fart king. That frothy mix of anal lube, jizz, and fecal matter. Brown surge.
DFW
(54,410 posts)Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand THEY'RE OFF!
And it's Bachmann by a length! Wait, make that half a length! Now it's Perry making a run from the outside, and he's taken over the lead with Cain passing Bachmann from the inside. They're pushing and kicking, and now it's Cain by a length!! Cain in the lead, Bachmann falling behind, Romney in the middle, Gingrich near the rear and Ron Paul, Santorum and Huntsman at the rear. Huntsman? Who's he? Someone get me the list. Is that the jockey or the horse?
Aaaaand now they've rounded the first quarter, and it's Gingrich starting to make a move..wait, no he isn't--wait...no, he is, ahh who the hell knows what he's doing? Romney's coming up fast--wait, no, all the rest of them are going slower. Now it's Santorum and Romney neck and neck with Gingrich using cyanide-tipped spurs trying to catch them. Huntsmann seems to be running out of financing and gas. He's dropping out! Cain seems to have slipped on a patch of melted mozzarella!! He's dropping out too. Bachmann dropped out a while ago, and is now downing kool aid at the Fox News booth, but we didn't notice with all the activity still on the track. Where's Perry? He was there a minute ago! Perry dropped out to pray and has endorsed Gingrich! No one noticed, not even Gingrich!
Rounding the half-way point, it's Romney! No, it's Gingrich! No, it's Romney! No, it's Santorum! Where did he come from? He leads by a length with Romney looking forward, backward, and sideways. Gingrich has dropped his cyanide-tipped spurs and is taking out an Adelson assault pistol! He's aiming it at Romney. It backfires! Santorum has now pulled even with Romney, and they are both riding neck and neck backwards! What a race, ladies and gentlemen!! It's Santorum and Romney! Gingrich is frothing at the mouth! Look out, there's someone pulling up on the outside!!
He's gaining, and the crowd is finally waking up! No, the crowd is going wild with excitement. Romney and Santorum are now two lengths behind and Gingrich is jabbing sea urchin spines into both horses' asses! The newcomer is pulling away with this. It's NONEOFTHEABOVE by two lengths!!!!! Out of the middle of nowhere!!! What a race!
Pulling into the home stretch, it's NONEOFTHEABOVE by three lengths with Romney and Santorum pulling sea urchin spines out of their haunches, and Gingrich behind them wondering why he is still behind them, with Ron Paul stuck in the last century! And the winner is..................................
Barack Obama, who has been waiting for the rest of them from behind the finish line since ten seconds after this ridiculous race began. What did you expect?
P.S. Ron Paul has announced his exploratory committee for the next race.
babylonsister
(171,074 posts)That's some seriously creative writin' there, Cowboy!
I did a better job with Robert Packard and Thomas Jefferson, though..............
Or Ma'am, I guess, as I am a married woman.
I'd love to read the Jefferson.
DFW
(54,410 posts)My wife is a married woman, too. Must be some some kind of catching trend.
As for Thomas Jefferson, I tell you what. My agent is searching for a publisher at the moment, but as my book is copyrighted by me, I guess I have the author's permission to post a small excerpt here.
What's going on is that, through an accident of nature, a French-speaking wannabe wine connoisseur in California in 2010 gets two windows to the past, one to France in 1860 and the other in 1818 Virginia. He falls in love with a French woman from 1860, but doesn't know what to do about it. He becomes friends with Jefferson, and discusses his situation with him (and also buys some bottles from Jefferson's private cellar which he sells for a fortune in his own time). Here is a part of Robert's final dialogue with Jefferson:
Mr. President, there is one thing I would like to ask you, and I cant ask anyone in my own time. There is one other portal besides this one. It leads to the Bordeaux region of France in the year 1860.
My, my, mused Jefferson, I hope the wine is as good that far in the future as it was when I was there. That far in the future. The concept of the year 1860 being far in the future was, needless to say, rather novel to me.
Oh, it is, I assured him. I have tried it. A huge plague befell, er, or rather, will befall the region in 1870, and most of the vines will perish. Only a very few will survive, but Bordeaux wine will live on, not only at home, but in California, Australia, South Africa, Chile, many places.
Fascinating, but please leave it at that, Jefferson cut me off. Remember, Robert, I cant know any of this, and it would risk much if I were to let on by casual error that I did.
Sorry, sir, I said. I got carried away by the moment. About what I wanted to ask you
Go on, he prodded.
Theres a woman there. In Bordeaux, I mean. Ive fallen hopelessly in love with her. She speaks no English, and I cant bring her to my world. To be with her, I would have to abandon my own world, with no recourse of return should I regret my decision, go to an era where creature comforts I take for granted do not exist, and I would have to gnash my teeth and keep silent about everything I know that is going to happen, every armed conflict, every cataclysmic world event. But I have waited all my life to feel this way about a woman, and I feel it is worth the risk. Am I crazy to contemplate this? Should I abandon the thought?
Jefferson pondered. I had only ten years with my Martha. She died before her thirty-fourth birthday. I was devastated. I must have spent three weeks inside a room in utter despair. Much later, I took up with someone that was completely illicit, at least in my day.
Its all right, Mr. President, we all know about Sally Hemings, and dont consider it a stain on your legacy at all.
Jefferson looked stunned. Really? You all know about Sally? Please dont even tell me how. I dont want to know. You cant imagine what a scandalous thing this is in my time. Our country, then, has truly become the beacon of enlightenment we hoped--Franklin, Madison, the others.
Well, not entirely, Im afraid, I answered. There are still strong, even violent forces of reaction that would bring the country back to the days when people were burned at the stake for such things. But they are a distinct minority, to be sure. I didnt want to get into the Texas School Board. We even abolished slavery entirely in 1865.
It took that long? I failed in my efforts to get slavery abolished over the years, although I still hold some slaves myself to this day. Ironic, isnt it? Many of us who were part of the beginning of this country envisioned abolishing slavery altogether by 1808. As president, I even signed a law back in 1808 banning the slave trade with Africa. Some of us had hoped to have slavery abolished by then, but we underestimated the resistance from the southern states, whose economies depended upon its continued existence. From what you say, it took far longer than any of us thought it would. I am glad to hear that it was finally done away with, although I imagine it had enormous economic consequences for the southern states. Im sure some of them must have had a few objections.
Oh, just a few, yeah. I didnt comment on that.
He went on, There will always be a conflict between the forces of free thought and enlightenment against those of glorified ignorance, control and darkness, I suppose, Jefferson said. But as long as they are beaten back by the forces of light and truth, they can be a tolerable evilindeed, perhaps a useful one, so as to point out by example what is not worthy of aspiration and is to be avoided. I gather from what youre leading up to that you want my opinion as to whether youre right to consider abandoning your present life for what, to you, would be the more simple life in an era you would find, superficially, at least, to be primitive?
That is basically it in a nutshell, I admitted.
In a nutshell, Jefferson repeated. Nice little expression. You got that from Hamlet?
Umm, no, its a common phrase in my day. Is it from Hamlet?
Originally, yes. It is very apt. The evolution of language is never-ending. Im glad youve given me a glimpse into whats become of English in America. It certainly has evolved beyond anything we recognize as contemporary, which is only natural. But back to your question. Youve said youre married, but that your wife has left you and has petitioned for a legal dissolution of your marriage, correct?
Quite correct, I confirmed.
This is feasible in your day, and you have lost whatever affection you had for her long before this little marvel here occurred, correct?
Correct again.
Well, then, Ill tell you what I think. But let me preface this by saying that I tell you this as one who has taken reckless risks in life. My affair with Sally may not raise eyebrows in your era, but in mine, it would be grounds for shunning me completely or even worse. This doesnt even take into account the risk we all took in taking up arms to separate from Britain so many years ago. It cost years of hardship, and many lives were either lost or disrupted forever. The human cost was incalculable. What we call the American Revolution is still called the War of Rebellion in England. But the end result was a miraculous political experiment the likes of which has never been seen on this earth, at least not since the age of Pericles. From what you tell me, it has turned out far from perfect, and so is still a work in progress. But it is a never-ending path, the course of human events. Actually, I used that phrase
In the Declaration of Independence, I completed. We all learn your words in school: When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another
A smile formed on his face, spreading to a wide beaming. That is one of the most pleasing things Ive learned from you, Robert. Thank you. Youve truly made my day.
I managedjust barelyto keep from chuckling and telling him that make my day was a familiar phrase, too, but not because of him. I think I would have had a difficult time explaining Dirty Harry to Thomas Jefferson.
© by me--stay tuned for if and when the book is published!
Thank you for sharing this. I, too, am a writer, but I do mostly non-fiction. American History, so your excerpt is quite poignant from where I sit. I've only published one, and I self-published. If you're interested (but certainly no expectations)...
http://www.mountainstormpress.com
Please let me know if you get it published. I have truly enjoyed reading this.
DFW
(54,410 posts)Its subject matter sort of wanders, but history plays a big part. In the scene where Robert
first meets Jefferson, Jefferson asks his location, and when Robert tells him he's in California,
Jefferson remarks "most impressive!" and Robert wonders why his being from California is
impressive. Jefferson remarks that he speaks excellent English for a Mexican. In his excitement
at meeting Thomas Jefferson, Robert has totally forgotten that in 1818, California was decades
away from becoming part of the United States.
renate
(13,776 posts)Great writing!
DFW
(54,410 posts)If I'm gonna hit the NYT bestseller list, someone has to buy the first copy! LOL
PERFECTION.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)DFW
(54,410 posts)It was just an after-dinner thought I had last night. I probably could have done a better job if I had spent any time on it.
BumRushDaShow
(129,121 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)for sure.
DFW
(54,410 posts)If that's the worst thing that happens to me all week, I'm off to a fabulous week! LOL
Kennah
(14,276 posts)You rock!
DFW
(54,410 posts)Who or what is Beetlebaum?
DFW
(54,410 posts)Willardbaum, Newtiebaum and Rickybaum neck and neck and neck.
Kennah
(14,276 posts)Kennah
(14,276 posts)Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)It is the funniest thing I've read in quite a while. Lets hear more of you! It is great to laugh while shaking your head in wonder of it all.
DFW
(54,410 posts)(To the tune of Deck The Halls)
Fill the halls with vows of folly
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Smarter words come from my collie
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Doesnt matter who is hosting:
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Phony facts and empty boasting
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Hear the G O P debating
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Lots of ranting and berating
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Fun like monkeys in a barrel
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They will not don gay apparel!
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2.
Hear the words of Newt and Herman!
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What they mean, you cant determine,
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Paul and Hunstman acting saner,
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Bachmann is the true no-brainer!
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Try to figure out Rick Perry
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Not too bright, but he is hairy
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Romney lectures Christian clerics
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Watch Obama in hysterics!
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DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)it deserves it!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)A horse race of horse's asses!
Ian62
(604 posts)that I know of.
Good take
groundloop
(11,519 posts)I've been contemplating how to spend my vote when the primary comes to town. Crazy Rick might just be a better gift to Democrats than even Gingrich.
JJW
(1,416 posts)OMG! What a hoot.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)a godsend to Obama in November. Both are crazy, Newt because he believes he is a God and Insantorum because he wants to establish a Catholic theocracy here. Obama would win by a landslide in either case.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Hint: Use the word frothy a lot.
caveat_imperator
(193 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)this is fantastic news..maybe he can get some money folks behind him.. the race could be entertianing running against a theocrat..
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)Good. I think Obama can beat him easily. Better than Rmoney. After CPAC, we shall see. Conservanazis don't like Willard because he's not a real conservanazi. Just another phony POS. Goodbye, Willard.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)Sorry, Gingrich, you had your moment in the sun.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)at another front runner, give them time.
Redstate Bluegirl
(213 posts)Barack Obama!
tfrey1225
(34 posts)as the idea of Rick Santorum being the GOP's nominee is, I can't help but feel sad at the state of America in 2012. I mean ideally Rick Santorum would be laughed off the stage or thrown in the loony bin rather than be seen as a serious contender for the Presidency. I am confident that the majority of Americans are smart enough to not vote for Santorum but it's sad that any significant portion of the populace supports him or could support him.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)Oh, we ain't got a barrel of money, and we may be ragged and funny....
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 13, 2012, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)
He didn't get many delegates last week and he lost pretty bad in Maine on Saturday. I think he has concentrated on being the "also ran" too much during this campaign. He never sounded like a leader, he sounded more like a lap dog.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts). . of the cliff.
2012 GOP Klown Kar Delegate Tracker:
Romney 123
Santorum 72
Gingrich 32
Paul 19
Huntsman 2
1,144 needed to nominate.
Next up -- Arizona and Michigan on the 28th
ecstatic
(32,712 posts)ecstatic
(32,712 posts)He is the most bigoted of the bunch.