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Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:40 PM Jan 2016

Think Progress: Details of how Sanders campaign tried to infiltrate the NV Culinary Union.

How Bernie Sanders’ Campaign ‘Disappointed And Offended’ Nevada’s Most Powerful Union

Reports surfaced Thursday alleging that campaign employees of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) had posed as hotel workers on the Las Vegas Strip in order to preach to members of the Culinary Union — one of the biggest and most politically influential unions in the key early caucus state.

The Culinary Union confirmed the reports, telling ThinkProgress in a statement that the campaign’s actions left them “disappointed and offended.”

“It’s completely inappropriate for any campaign to attempt to mislead Culinary Union members, especially at their place of work,” said the union’s Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline. “We strongly condemn anyone falsifying their affiliation with the Culinary Union in order to gain access to properties and we will cooperate with casinos and hotels so that this matter is fully resolved.”

Sanders campaign workers visited four unionized hotels, The Rio, Paris, The Mirage and Planet Hollywood, and by wearing the union’s iconic yellow button, accessed employee dining rooms to speak with and give Sanders literature to workers.

The Sanders campaign did not respond to inquires from ThinkProgress about the incident.
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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/28/3743961/sanders-nevada-union

This is not just volunteers or over-zealous supporters. This is campaign employees. It is an official action. Has the Sanders campaign done this in other states or with other unions? Who gave the order to dress up like union members? Do the ends justify the means?
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Think Progress: Details of how Sanders campaign tried to infiltrate the NV Culinary Union. (Original Post) Renew Deal Jan 2016 OP
just to be clear tk2kewl Jan 2016 #1
The issue isn't that the Sanders campaign did these things Renew Deal Jan 2016 #10
if the issue has been settled btw the union and the campaign how is it news? tk2kewl Jan 2016 #13
Because most people didn't know the mechanics of the deception. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #14
OMG!!! A campaign fighting for union rights actually tried to ORGANIZE support among union members! mhatrw Jan 2016 #18
I know whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #27
Sanders employees entering union workplace dining areas is WRONG!! Period riversedge Jan 2016 #29
It is wrong mcar Jan 2016 #36
i can see you stamping your feet tk2kewl Jan 2016 #38
stop distracting. we are talking about employee lunch rooms. Have you no respect for riversedge Jan 2016 #39
right... nothing but a distraction... move along tk2kewl Jan 2016 #40
Yeah. They tried to ORGANIZE union workers! mhatrw Jan 2016 #44
that's the bottom line of why it's wrong tk2kewl Jan 2016 #50
if you think one candidate's enthusiastic reps sneaking into a lunchroom tk2kewl Jan 2016 #20
But she met with some ministers, too Mike__M Jan 2016 #25
yes, so be it. riversedge Jan 2016 #30
it's good to know what priorities people hold tk2kewl Jan 2016 #33
So aside from the 20 or so Hillary supporters here, who IRL gives a shit? frylock Jan 2016 #59
Probably no one. Renew Deal Jan 2016 #60
Some people say... frylock Jan 2016 #61
Sorry Renew Deal Jan 2016 #63
Guess you missed the follow up Paulie Jan 2016 #2
I doubt it was missed. SamKnause Jan 2016 #3
Thanks for this... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #4
I don't see why that means the op shouldn't be posted. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #12
Good points. Thank you. riversedge Jan 2016 #31
But....whoops! pinebox Jan 2016 #5
that is actually a much different thing dsc Jan 2016 #21
Yes and no pinebox Jan 2016 #22
Let's talk about Think Progress and CAP...a John Podesta group. madfloridian Jan 2016 #6
see reply #1 tk2kewl Jan 2016 #7
The issue isn't that the Sanders campaign did these things Renew Deal Jan 2016 #8
Funny that some peoples first reaction was to attack the union. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #9
"sanders campaign has agreed not to try to enter the employee dining rooms again." Renew Deal Jan 2016 #11
Oh - the old "I'm Told" Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #15
Well, that's a resolution, and a good decision. MineralMan Jan 2016 #16
I wonder what the response here would be if HRC mcar Jan 2016 #37
Links to the attacks on the union kplxthx? frylock Jan 2016 #62
WHAT? Somebody tried to organize union members?!!!???!!!?!!!111111???!!! mhatrw Jan 2016 #17
If the staffers did nothing wrong... CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #49
I'm not saying they did nothing "wrong." What I am saying is this is not even an anthill, much less mhatrw Jan 2016 #51
I don't know. WHY was the union so upset about the incident? frylock Jan 2016 #65
So they were wearing yellow buttons showing union support? dreamnightwind Jan 2016 #19
If the staffers did nothing wrong... CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #47
You tell us. frylock Jan 2016 #66
Underhanded politicking from the Bernie campaign? Sheepshank Jan 2016 #23
Is this "iconic yellow button" also a proximity badge? frylock Jan 2016 #24
Hillary propaganda arm lying cali Jan 2016 #26
If the staffers did nothing wrong... CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #45
On a scale of one to ten -- how upset are they? immoderate Jan 2016 #56
Nothing one does on behalf of the righteous is ever wrong alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #28
Dress up like Union members? They had a union button. azmom Jan 2016 #32
If the staffers did nothing wrong... CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #43
The buttons in question are solidarity buttons and not employee or union IDs notadmblnd Jan 2016 #34
Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver apologized to the Culinary Workers Union. Alfresco Jan 2016 #35
I'm surprised Weaver didn't denounce the union as a bunch of comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #52
If they endorse Hillary he will. Alfresco Jan 2016 #53
Because he does that all the time, right? frylock Jan 2016 #67
We must prevent culinary workers from hearing Bernie evil siren-song of SOSHIALISM at all costs! Romulox Jan 2016 #41
Infiltrate? It's not the KGB for heaven's sake . . . it's people cooking food. Vinca Jan 2016 #42
WELL WELL WELL, what's this? Ciinton accused of same thing in 2008 Armstead Jan 2016 #46
She learned her lesson but Bernie fans did not. riversedge Jan 2016 #54
I've got to hand it to you.....That's creative Armstead Jan 2016 #55
THANK YOU. But it is the truth. riversedge Jan 2016 #58
The next time Hillary learns a lesson will be the first time. frylock Jan 2016 #68
PAMPHLETS people. The Berniebros distributed m-fing PAMPHLETS! nt Romulox Jan 2016 #48
I don't want to live in Bernie Sanders' Amerika. frylock Jan 2016 #69
First Think Progress is controlled by those libertarian kind of folks, second this has Todays_Illusion Jan 2016 #57
I see that the excuses for bad, dishonest behaviour from Bernie Supporters continues Sheepshank Jan 2016 #64
Major Nevada union, Sanders campaign resolve dispute polly7 Jan 2016 #70
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
1. just to be clear
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinkProgress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_American_Progress

The president and chief executive officer of CAP is Neera Tanden, who worked for the Obama and Clinton administrations and for Hillary Clinton’s campaigns.
 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
13. if the issue has been settled btw the union and the campaign how is it news?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jan 2016

other than certain people wanting it to be?

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
14. Because most people didn't know the mechanics of the deception.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jan 2016

The people reading this thread now do.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
18. OMG!!! A campaign fighting for union rights actually tried to ORGANIZE support among union members!
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jan 2016

What is the world coming to?

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
38. i can see you stamping your feet
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jan 2016

i'd say a candidate entering a wall street dining room and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars to say things we're not allowed to hear is WRONGER. Exclamation point!

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
39. stop distracting. we are talking about employee lunch rooms. Have you no respect for
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jan 2016

workers? Instead just distract from the OP. Shameful. What the Sanders employees did was wrong.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
44. Yeah. They tried to ORGANIZE union workers!
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

Just wait until the robber baron "job creators" hear about this!

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
50. that's the bottom line of why it's wrong
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jan 2016

they go in and try to talk to the workers about stuff the bosses don't want them to hear

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
20. if you think one candidate's enthusiastic reps sneaking into a lunchroom
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

is more newsworthy than another giving multiple 1/4 million dollar speeches to investment banks and not disclosing transcripts of those speeches to the public, so be it.

i think differently

frylock

(34,825 posts)
59. So aside from the 20 or so Hillary supporters here, who IRL gives a shit?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jan 2016

I have heard nothing about this outside of DU. First thing I heard on NPR when I got up this morning was about the FBI investigation into Hillary's emails. What event do you feel will be more damaging to the respective candidates?

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
3. I doubt it was missed.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jan 2016

They just keep slinging shit hoping it will stick.

Thanks for correcting the poster.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. I don't see why that means the op shouldn't be posted.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

Your link, for the most part, confirms the stories accuracy. I have seen wild ass conspiracy theories about how Clinton is behind it. This goes straight to the type of campaign being run and that is important.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
21. that is actually a much different thing
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:43 PM
Jan 2016

The union had a privileged position relative to anyone else in that they got to vote either where they worked or at home and got to make their vote count for more than others at least potentially. For example, if I were out there I would have to had vote at my home caucus no matter what percent of the people were there for my candidate but a casino worker could choose to vote at site A where they might do nothing or site B where they make the difference for getting an extra delegate.

Renew Deal

(81,871 posts)
11. "sanders campaign has agreed not to try to enter the employee dining rooms again."
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016
https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sanders-workers-are-masquerading-culinary-members-campaign-inside-hotels

See, the problem isn't that it happened. It's that it was reported. Just like the data theft.

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
15. Oh - the old "I'm Told"
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

Too funny. And such obvious innuendo in the bad writing of this "report".

First Ralston points out that this issue is resolved.

Then he immediately says "How so? I'm told the sanders campaign has agreed not to try to enter the employee dining rooms again."

Then he regurgitates all the information from the previous day that has already "been resolved".

All the Sanders campaign has said is that some campaign staff wore Labor buttons in solidarity with the union WHILE wearing Sanders paraphenalia. All that has happened since the original brouhaha is that the union and the Sanders people have resolved the issue. No one has stated anything more.

So I ask . . . who told him that the Sanders campaign has agreed not to try to enter the employee dining rooms again"? The voices in his head?

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
16. Well, that's a resolution, and a good decision.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jan 2016

The incident still occurred, though. That is still being reported and covered, as it should be.

I'm glad the Sanders campaign has agreed not to do that again. Apparently they are not denying that they did it, though.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
17. WHAT? Somebody tried to organize union members?!!!???!!!?!!!111111???!!!
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jan 2016

What is the world coming to?

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
49. If the staffers did nothing wrong...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

Why was the union so upset about the incident?

Why did the Sanders campaign apologize to the union?

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
51. I'm not saying they did nothing "wrong." What I am saying is this is not even an anthill, much less
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

a molehill. Next!

And the only people "upset" about this anymore are Clinton campaign operatives.

I'm sure rank and file union members are not losing any sleep over a few overzealous Sanders supporters attempting to engage a handful of their fellow workers.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
65. I don't know. WHY was the union so upset about the incident?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jan 2016

Have they made a statement on that front?

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
19. So they were wearing yellow buttons showing union support?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

Those buttons are in no way anything like a membership card, not a lanyard, not ID, they're buttons saying we support the union, which I'm certaiin the Sanders supporters do, Bernie is all about labor.

I read the article and the background article (https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/sanders-workers-are-masquerading-culinary-members-campaign-inside-hotels), saw nothing more than this.

I can understand the union not wanting their lunch area turned into a venue for campaign canvassing. But wearing those yellow lapel union buttons is not impersonating a union employee, not even close.



Also apparently the Clintons did the same or worse in 2008, shocked I am.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
47. If the staffers did nothing wrong...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016

Why was the union so upset about the incident?

Why did the Sanders campaign apologize to the union?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
23. Underhanded politicking from the Bernie campaign?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

and the Bernie campaign continues to insist it's just fine and dandy while bringing up what they believe is underhanded campaign tricks of past campaigns.

Hypocrisy much?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
24. Is this "iconic yellow button" also a proximity badge?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jan 2016

Did people from Sanders campaign breach a secured breakroom? Is the button the only part of the uniform that the employees wear? I'm having a hard time understanding how wearing a button is being construed as impersonating a union laborer. It's like if I wore a Philip Rivers jersey in hopes of impersonating a Charger.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
45. If the staffers did nothing wrong...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

Why was the union so upset about the incident?

Why did the Sanders campaign apologize to the union?

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
56. On a scale of one to ten -- how upset are they?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

Or maybe you prefer the more web-friendly five star (or egg) scale?

What is the plot? What caper did they have planned?

--imm

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
43. If the staffers did nothing wrong...
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jan 2016

Why was the union so upset about the incident?

Why did the Sanders campaign apologize to the union?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
34. The buttons in question are solidarity buttons and not employee or union IDs
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

They are for sale on Ebay where anyone can purchase them. How does wearing a button falsify affiliation if they are available to everyone? What is misleading?

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
42. Infiltrate? It's not the KGB for heaven's sake . . . it's people cooking food.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

This has just gone from a stupid story to a stupider story.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
46. WELL WELL WELL, what's this? Ciinton accused of same thing in 2008
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/politics/bernie-sanders-union-nevada-culinary-union/

Nevada's powerful Culinary Union and the Bernie Sanders campaign say they've resolved their issues after a kerfuffle earlier Thursday had the group at odds with the Vermont senator's presidential operation in a key early voting state.

The union had accused Bernie Sanders' campaign staffers of posing as union workers in an attempt to gain access to their members, a charge the Sanders campaign denied.

The union and Sanders campaigners later said the issue, which was first reported by Ralston Reports' Jon Ralston, had been settled.

"We've talked with the campaign and the situation has been resolved," Bethany Kahn, Culinary spokeswoman said in a statement.

Culinary has long been at the center of the Nevada caucuses. The union endorsed Barack Obama in 2008, a race where Clinton campaign staffers were accused of trying to infiltrate various casinos and resorts in Las Vegas.

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
57. First Think Progress is controlled by those libertarian kind of folks, second this has
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:30 PM
Jan 2016

all the aroma of a Karl Roverian/Atwell/Nixonion dirty trick.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
64. I see that the excuses for bad, dishonest behaviour from Bernie Supporters continues
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jan 2016

Just like the excuse for data theft....the excuses still continue

Bernie is showing the poorest of leadership skills. He is absolutely not presidential material.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
70. Major Nevada union, Sanders campaign resolve dispute
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jan 2016

Source: CNN

By Dan Merica

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN)Nevada's powerful Culinary Union and the Bernie Sanders campaign say they've resolved their issues after a kerfuffle earlier Thursday had the group at odds with the Vermont senator's presidential operation in a key early voting state.

The union had accused Bernie Sanders' campaign staffers of posing as union workers in an attempt to gain access to their members, a charge the Sanders campaign denied.

The union and Sanders campaigners later said the issue, which was first reported by Ralston Reports' Jon Ralston, had been settled.

Snip: Culinary has long been at the center of the Nevada caucuses. The union endorsed Barack Obama in 2008, a race where Clinton campaign staffers were accused of trying to infiltrate various casinos and resorts in Las Vegas.

FULL story at link.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/politics/bernie-sanders-union-nevada-culinary-union/index.html

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