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http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/9/24/15506/4649Obama is Strong with White Working Class
by BooMan
Mon Sep 24th, 2012 at 03:50:06 PM EST
Here's another reason that the national polls don't matter, even if the polls are taken of just white people.
The P.R.R.I. study focuses on a group it defines as non-Hispanic whites without a four-year college degrees who are paid by the hour or by the job. Thats roughly one-third (36%) of all Americans. The study shows that Romneys nationwide 48-35 advantage among these voters masks crucial regional differences.
The reason Romney has a strong, 13-point edge among all white working class voters, according to the P.R.R.I. findings, is that in the South his margin is huge. In the rest of the country, the white working class is much more closely divided.
Among southern working class whites, Romney leads by 40 points, 62-22, an extraordinary gap.
Romney leads with this group by 5 in the West and 4 in the Northeast, but trails by 8 in the Midwest. Auto bailout, anyone?
As for why the white working class of Pennsylvania has no time for Mitt Romney, this guy has an answer after my own heart (emphasis mine):
Why would he be disconnected from people who work for a living? He's been living off interest and dividends for over a decade. If you exclude the South, Obama is running about even with white working class folks. And I don't think the Southerners like Romney, either. It's just that they seem to have decided that there is a white party and a black party. It used to be that the Democratic Party was the white party. Now it's the Republican Party. I wonder if that will ever change. It's certainly changing in Virginia and North Carolina, but Gore, Kerry, and Obama couldn't crack 20% with white voters in the Deep South. I think they're used to one-party dominance and they like it that way. It's not too good for accountability though. Once you elect a dolt like Jeff Sessions or David Vitter, you can never get rid of them.
GreenTea
(5,154 posts)no matter what the polls show.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)may be able to provide a cushion to offset the voter fraud. We need more moderate Republicans and Independents than usual to cross over.
Indykatie
(3,696 posts)It's points out the problems with national polling in that it weighs all responses equally. We know Obama loses the South by big numbers but that has no negative impact on his chances of winning the election. AS I posted earlier today, this race is NOT tied or even close despite the media and republicans continuing to say that it is. Look at the individual States, especially those defined as "swing" States. Obama is winning by comfortable margins in most of them. With a projected EV result in the 320-330 range hard to see how anyone buys into the race being tied or close.