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Whoa-today's Gallup Tracking Poll shows Obama's "War on Religion" is really affecting his approval (Original Post) jenmito Feb 2012 OP
Well, it made my approval go up get the red out Feb 2012 #1
I hear ya... jenmito Feb 2012 #2
Had to turn Tweety off FOR GOOD!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #13
To me he kind of seemed undeided about how it would affect Obama when he heard jenmito Feb 2012 #14
Not to me. Most of his show for the last week or so has been devoted to this issue. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #15
Hmmm... jenmito Feb 2012 #18
awww, c'mon lillypaddle Feb 2012 #22
We'll have to agree to disagree. It's his tone and making this issue into something that in my view Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #27
And tax free, and big as huge corporations, and often also political operatives. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #5
good point, now if the Republicans could only interpret data. grantcart Feb 2012 #3
After the Susan G. Komen Fiasco otohara Feb 2012 #6
It's not only Repubs.... jenmito Feb 2012 #7
I think many women are with the silent majority. We go about our business and we are well southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #4
And his Economy rating is up 12 points from last August! JaneQPublic Feb 2012 #8
Catholics, Mormons, the Amish, Muslims and some Evangelicals JDPriestly Feb 2012 #9
From an unapologetic and some say "contemptible & morally bankrupt" Obama supporter...K&R! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #10
Awesome. That's his best showing since June! jefferson_dem Feb 2012 #11
Wow. And (R)asmussen has Obama at 50%! n/t jenmito Feb 2012 #12
People are so sick and tired of these teabaggers cryin wolf! workinclasszero Feb 2012 #16
Look for them to ratchet up the guillotine and birth control argument... tallahasseedem Feb 2012 #17
These are good numbers but.. DCBob Feb 2012 #19
I think it's ALREADY helping Obama. jenmito Feb 2012 #20
You are probably right. DCBob Feb 2012 #21
I think they're coming across as extremists... jenmito Feb 2012 #23
I wish our side would fire back more. DCBob Feb 2012 #25
49% approval means he gets re-elected. aaaaaa5a Feb 2012 #24
Yeah, but they stole the election, so don't think that counts. NT juajen Feb 2012 #28
The Majority of Americans (and Catholics) use contraception. tfrey1225 Feb 2012 #26

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
1. Well, it made my approval go up
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:11 PM
Feb 2012

Big Religion is a dinosaur eating people's rights and shitting out misery and hatred in exchange.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
2. I hear ya...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:14 PM
Feb 2012

the male pundits on TV seem to think they're so smart when they say the issue is hurting Obama.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
14. To me he kind of seemed undeided about how it would affect Obama when he heard
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:56 PM
Feb 2012

both sides from 2 women. I keep watching him although he gets on my nerves BIG TIME sometimes.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
15. Not to me. Most of his show for the last week or so has been devoted to this issue.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:30 PM
Feb 2012

He seems to think that it WILL hurt Obama. This week, however, he has at least balanced the panel. Last week, he had two women on who were against the administration. This week, he had one woman who supported it and one woman against it. I think he and the woman who was against it ganged up on the one who is for the mandate.

Larry O' made some really good points last night with Stephanie Cutter. I wish she had been a bit more forthright with her answers.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
18. Hmmm...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:58 PM
Feb 2012

that's true what you said about the last week. And now that you mention it, it DID seem like he agreed more with the woman in the top box. I guess I just see him as honestly confused and willing to listen to both sides of the argument. But he IS Catholic, so I guess he IS biased.

And Larry DID make some great points last night re: health insurance.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
22. awww, c'mon
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:44 PM
Feb 2012

he's not that bad. I watched tonight, and unless I missed it, didn't hear him saying anything that was way off base.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
27. We'll have to agree to disagree. It's his tone and making this issue into something that in my view
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:04 AM - Edit history (1)

is not and should not be an issue. Polls show that most Americans--including Catholic voters--favor and USE contraceptives. The issue is with the church. Tweety is acting as though Obama will lose the Catholic vote other this issue. I just beg to differ. He never had the Catholic church in his corner or conservative Catholics.

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree on this issue.

Sometimes Tweety is over the top.

Edit to add: Apparently, I'm not the only one who feels this way...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002292531

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
3. good point, now if the Republicans could only interpret data.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:17 PM
Feb 2012

Trend line helps make your point visually. Move the cursor from the left side to get a better picture of the trend in the last two months.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
7. It's not only Repubs....
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
Feb 2012

it's also some Conservadems and some "neutral" pundits and TV anchors. You don't even HAVE to move the cursor to see the trend-the lines show how obvious it is. Thanks for posting it!

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
4. I think many women are with the silent majority. We go about our business and we are well
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:19 PM
Feb 2012

aware of the issue. Republicans are overplaying their hand when it comes to womens issues.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. Catholics, Mormons, the Amish, Muslims and some Evangelicals
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:06 PM
Feb 2012

oppose birth control. Methodists, the majority of evangelicals, Jews, Unitarians, Episcopalians, some Lutherans and those who are not religious support birth control.

Catholics make up only 24% of our population. It is absurd to change the law to suit the bishops, but it may, nevertheless, be smart politics.

Support Planned Parenthood so that everyone can have birth control if they want it.

source regarding percentage of members in various religions

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

source regarding stance of churches on birth control

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_contraception

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. People are so sick and tired of these teabaggers cryin wolf!
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:56 PM
Feb 2012

The aholes will use any trumped up bullshit talking point to distract the 99% from realizing what they are really up to.

People are so damned tired of the hate radio/teabag outrage of the minute horseshit!

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
17. Look for them to ratchet up the guillotine and birth control argument...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:58 PM
Feb 2012

and hey...isn't that Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. These are good numbers but..
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:13 PM
Feb 2012

the RW attack machine is in full force trying to make this a bigger issue than it really is. There could be some short term impact but eventually this will probably help Obama.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
20. I think it's ALREADY helping Obama.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:28 PM
Feb 2012

The RWers have been attacking him for a few days now and his approval has gone UP.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
21. You are probably right.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:36 PM
Feb 2012

Its just that I see a massive coordinated effort among the RWingers to bash the President on this issue. This often works with the ignorant masses.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
23. I think they're coming across as extremists...
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 07:57 PM
Feb 2012

trying to stop people from being able to get contraception through health insurance. I think it's backfiring.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. I wish our side would fire back more.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:04 PM
Feb 2012

This is a winning issue for us but many appear to be afraid to offend "the church".

tfrey1225

(34 posts)
26. The Majority of Americans (and Catholics) use contraception.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 08:16 PM
Feb 2012

I don't see how this "war on religion" could do anything but help the President. Access to contraception and the use of contraception are popular amongst the American public. If anything this issue is a loser for any Republican (Santorum) who decides to take on the President on this issue.

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