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progressoid

(49,999 posts)
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 03:55 PM Jan 2018

Oprah Winfrey for President? Does anyone remember all the pseudoscience and quackery shes promoted?

Pseudoscience and quackery? Oh, yes. In the early years of this blog, Oprah was a frequent topic of Orac’s Insolence, and for good reason. She was one of the foremost promoters of pseudoscience, quackery, and general New Age BS in the world. If you think I’m exaggerating, just think of it this way. Oprah not only gave the world America’s quack, Dr. Mehmet Oz, and the foremost promoter of pseudoscience in mental health, Dr. Phil McGraw, who also stands accused of providing alcohol and drugs to addicts featured on his show in order to ramp up the drama factor. It would be bad enough if that were all she had done, but it’s not.

I first remember becoming aware of Oprah’s promotion of pseudoscience and mystical New Age nonsense more than ten years ago, when I learned of her promotion of The Secret. The Secret, if you’ll recall, is a spectacular bit of New Age woo that basically claims that, in essence, wishing makes it so. No, that’s not quite right, although it is close. Basically, the idea behind The Secret is the Law of Attraction, which states that you will attract from the universe the things you want. Basically, if you want something badly enough, the universe will manifest it for you. Of course, on one level, there is a grain of truth to this idea. Obviously, people who want things badly work hard to obtain those things and are thus more likely to get them. The Secret, of course, takes that simple concept beyond the reasonable and into the realm of wishing making it so. I find The Secret to be a particularly pernicious bit of wishful thinking because it is at the heart of so much quackery. Indeed, I have argued that the central dogma of alternative medicine is in fact The Secret, or the idea that wishing makes it so.

But that’s not all, either.

...https://respectfulinsolence.com/2018/01/09/oprah-winfrey-president-anyone-remember-pseudoscience-quackery-shes-promoted/



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Oprah Winfrey for President? Does anyone remember all the pseudoscience and quackery shes promoted? (Original Post) progressoid Jan 2018 OP
Nevertheless snake oil salesmanship is pretty rampant in our society and politics lunatica Jan 2018 #1
I never realy followed her but i had heard about the anti vax campaign... samnsara Jan 2018 #2
Here we go.... ollie10 Jan 2018 #3
Uh, no. progressoid Jan 2018 #9
She called Michelle Rhee a warrior woman. LisaM Jan 2018 #4
Don't forget the whole Bio-Identicals thing HopeAgain Jan 2018 #5
Never really followed her but endorsing "Dr. Phil" & "Dr. Oz" Beearewhyain Jan 2018 #6
Is she willing to get rid of her businesses awesomerwb1 Jan 2018 #7
Well, now thanks to our current POTUS misanthrope Apr 2018 #12
I think Oprah is probably well-meaning, but definitely gullible. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #8
Yes, I remember Oprah from many years ago and some of her "interesting" Sherman A1 Jan 2018 #10
She's super gullible and her ego is as big as Dons. I know folks who've worked for her. elehhhhna Jan 2018 #11

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
1. Nevertheless snake oil salesmanship is pretty rampant in our society and politics
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:05 PM
Jan 2018

Anyone paying attention in an objective way to Presidential elections (or any other kind) knows all about magical thinking and selling. Promises which are ignored the day after the elections. And no one is more into this stuff than our present President. No one.

Every ad on tv is full of shit too. Happiness will come to you if you drive this car. Reality will change for you and transport you straight into your wildest desires. This product will make you thin.

Bullshit is all around us all the time. I see no reason to single out Oprah when all you have to do is turn on the tv or read a magazine or listen to the news, especially Fox News.

Having said that I don't want another celebrity to run. There are plenty of qualified younger people (non-boomers) who can do the job better.

samnsara

(17,650 posts)
2. I never realy followed her but i had heard about the anti vax campaign...
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:11 PM
Jan 2018

..I just am not jumping on her Prez band wagon cuz she's unqualified (IMHO) for that particular office. I hope she runs for some kind of office tho...on a more local level.

 

ollie10

(2,091 posts)
3. Here we go....
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

....She had a wide variety of guests on her show. She will be blamed for the sins of the worst among them.

Now, here's the trick.....you are using insinuation and guilt by association.

Wow.

I think it is pretty obvious what is going on. A lot of us already have a horse in this race .... and are threatened by a new entry into the field who could blow it wide open.

A poll out yesterday:

Oprah 48%
Trump 38%

That is scaring you guys to death

And I hear all this stuff about "experience"......like Galileo had experience, the dude thought the earth revolves around the sun! All the experienced minds knew it was the other way around!!!

LisaM

(27,843 posts)
4. She called Michelle Rhee a warrior woman.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:15 PM
Jan 2018

Michelle Rhee is not a warrior woman; she's a scam artist. I just can't trust Oprah's judgment.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. Don't forget the whole Bio-Identicals thing
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jan 2018

She was all over that for a while and it is, literally, dangerous.

Beearewhyain

(600 posts)
6. Never really followed her but endorsing "Dr. Phil" & "Dr. Oz"
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jan 2018

is pretty much disqualifying AFAIAC. Shows either a severe lack of judgement or an almost criminal indifference.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,882 posts)
8. I think Oprah is probably well-meaning, but definitely gullible.
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jan 2018

She has certainly done good things, including donating a lot of money to charities. Her whole shtick on her tv show, though, is emotional and "caring" (and I have no reason to doubt her sincerity). This quality, unfortunately, seems to have led her to promote some people and ideas that are superficially attractive but completely without scientific merit - and therefore if not downright destructive, are at least useless and a waste of time and money. Maybe she sincerely wants to help people, but she has allowed herself to be duped into allowing these people to dupe her audiences.

Just apart from the fact that the last thing we need is another inexperienced tv personality as a presidential candidate, I don't think she has the judgment necessary for the job.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
10. Yes, I remember Oprah from many years ago and some of her "interesting"
Wed Jan 10, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jan 2018

science. I have absolutely no use for her.

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