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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:59 AM Sep 2014

Art Show With Barbie And Ken As The Virgin Mary And Jesus Outrages Bishops


Italy’s Catholic bishops are furious about controversial artistic depictions of the popular Barbie and Ken dolls as the Virgin Mary and a crucified Jesus Christ and other saints.

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Art Show With Barbie And Ken As The Virgin Mary And Jesus Outrages Bishops (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2014 OP
Hmm, furious and outraged over toys Rainforestgoddess Sep 2014 #1
Well, see, symbols and symbolism are much more imporant than real humans Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #4
I would have thought they'd have been thrilled - no genitals! mr blur Sep 2014 #2
Muslims have their own Barbie doll! onager Sep 2014 #3
Fulla AlbertCat Sep 2014 #6
Italy’s Catholic bishops are furious ... AlbertCat Sep 2014 #5
Furious over a doll, but conspicuously silent over child rape. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #9
Ding! Ding! Ding! theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #12
In SF Cartoonist Sep 2014 #7
Then there was B-1 Bob Dornan... onager Sep 2014 #8
more about that burrito Cartoonist Sep 2014 #10
You can mould the Virgin in plastic and glue her in a little seashell grotto.... AlbertCat Sep 2014 #11
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
4. Well, see, symbols and symbolism are much more imporant than real humans
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 03:28 PM
Sep 2014

to the Grand Poohbahs of that church.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
2. I would have thought they'd have been thrilled - no genitals!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:05 PM
Sep 2014

"On their Facebook page the two artists write in Spanish that there was no way they would depict Muhammad out of their great desire not to have their fucking heads hacked off by followers of the Religion of Peace"

- Fixed

onager

(9,356 posts)
3. Muslims have their own Barbie doll!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:54 PM
Sep 2014

Her name is Fulla. I can verify her popularity, I saw those dolls all over the place in Egypt.

Egyptians crack some rude jokes about the doll: "But where are Fulla's five angry brothers, who will kill you if you look at her?"

She was dressed in a black abaya and head scarf for the Saudi market, but no veil in other markets; because the product development didn't want to "go to extremes."

Non-heavens no! We wouldn't want to do that. Especially since Fulla was created in 2003, after Saudi Arabia banned Barbie dolls and issued one its usual non-extreme statements on the banning:

The Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice stated "Jewish Barbie dolls, with their revealing clothes and shameful postures, accessories and tools are a symbol of decadence to the perverted West. Let us beware of her dangers and be careful." (From the Barbie Wiki entry.)

I don't get the "Jewish" part. Barbie's a shiksa if I ever saw one. The founders of Mattel, the Handlers, are Jewish. So maybe that's the connection.

Fulla does not have a Ken-type companion. But as you noted, if she ever gets one, he should probably come with a detachable head.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
6. Fulla
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:14 PM
Sep 2014

"She can also be found wearing half- and quarter-sleeve dresses, but not sleeveless."


This is ridiculous!

Cartoonist

(7,320 posts)
7. In SF
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:26 AM
Sep 2014

One of the news weeklies ran a story about where you can get the best burritos in the city. The cover illustration depicted a burrito using that same weird background. The outrage from the Latino community was intense.

onager

(9,356 posts)
8. Then there was B-1 Bob Dornan...
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:35 AM
Sep 2014

...down in Orange County. After months of demonizing Latinos in his 1996 race against Loretta Sanchez, he did a 180 and tried to court the Latino vote. In his own great style...

One piece of Dornan's campaign lit featured the Virgin of Guadalupe on the cover, and gory abortion photos inside. If he got any Latino votes after that bonehead move, they probably came from a cemetery. Even non-religious Mexican-Americans were angry about him trying to hijack their culture.

And Dornan's self-inflicted wounds were minor, compared to the hammering he got from a couple of snarky Latino satirists. They set up a "Viva Bob Dornan!" website that probably drove Dornan even crazier than he already was:

http://www.ocweekly.com/1999-06-10/news/viva-bob-dornan/

Cartoonist

(7,320 posts)
10. more about that burrito
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:10 AM
Sep 2014


I was unable to find the picture that prompted my earlier post. But imagine this image without the virgin and a burrito in its place. As I said, the outrage from the Hispanic community was fierce. Not as fierce as that from Muslims when their Prophet was depicted in cartoons, but the same religious fueled fervor.

Off on a tangent:

If the little girl who had that vision of the Lady of Guadalupe had come home and said she saw a pink elephant with a fuzzy bunny riding on its back, no one would have paid her any attention. They would have said she was DELUDED. But she saw the Virgin Mary, so she was taken seriously. What's the fucking difference? RELIGION

On some boards, if I make a comparison between the two, my statement is called asinine. Go figure.
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
11. You can mould the Virgin in plastic and glue her in a little seashell grotto....
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 10:43 AM
Sep 2014

....but, dios mío!..... don't replace her with a burrito!

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