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Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:08 AM Aug 2014

Madison chapter promotes church for atheists

7:24 a.m. CDT August 4, 2014

MADISON — A movement aimed at providing atheists a chance to experience the fellowship of church without all the religious trappings is coming to Madison.

Sunday Assembly Madison, the local chapter of an organization that began in London 18 months ago, will hold its first service next month, the Wisconsin State Journal reported Sunday.

One of the local organizers is Naomi Kroth, a 30-year-old Madison native who loved everything about the Christian church of her childhood — well, everything but the God talk. She stopped attending, but felt that something was lacking.

"I've always missed going to church — the singing, the sermon, the volunteerism, the community," Kroth said. "But I couldn't reconcile that with my views on religion."

http://www.fdlreporter.com/story/news/2014/08/04/madison-church-atheist/13564409/

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Anyone feel like they have a need for a church? I have a lot of Catholic mass in my history and was a UU fellowship member for a while, but it didn't do a lot for me. Just kind of stopped going. Nice people and felt welcomed as a atheist, but I just didn't feel the need for that kind of thing. I'm sure there are many where this will fill a legitimate need.

And FWIW, Madison is a world in-and-of-itself in the middle of Wisconsin.

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Madison chapter promotes church for atheists (Original Post) Goblinmonger Aug 2014 OP
As an Atheist Shadowflash Aug 2014 #1
I don't feel the need myself but can understand those who do. JNelson6563 Aug 2014 #2
Actually, I think it's pathetic. Even sad. mr blur Aug 2014 #3
All of those activities are free, and available, if one has any inclination whatsoever. AtheistCrusader Aug 2014 #4
Yeah not getting the need either. trotsky Aug 2014 #5
I still attend UU Fellowship, but not for the "church experience". cleanhippie Aug 2014 #6
I'm not a joiner myself but providing an Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #12
"I've always missed going to church — ..." AlbertCat Aug 2014 #7
Nope. I'm good. whatthehey Aug 2014 #8
Maybe these are mostly faitheists skepticscott Aug 2014 #9
IMHO LostOne4Ever Aug 2014 #10
the only thing I miss about church awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #11
No need for a church nil desperandum Aug 2014 #13

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
1. As an Atheist
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:16 AM
Aug 2014

I don't see the need for this. This is just going to feed into people saying that Atheism is just another religion. It's like buying photo albums to put in all the postcards you DON'T collect.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
2. I don't feel the need myself but can understand those who do.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

I also think this would be a good way to organize some community efforts. For the mostart if we want to support such efforts we do so seperately through existing orgs. I wouldn't mind seeing atheists start something on our own.

Julie

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
3. Actually, I think it's pathetic. Even sad.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:28 AM
Aug 2014
"I've always missed going to church — the singing, the sermon, the volunteerism, the community,"


WTF is wrong with people? You miss a sermon, being told what to think?! Fuck that.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. Yeah not getting the need either.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:45 AM
Aug 2014

I mean, great for people who want that kind of thing - but I don't like how this generally gets spun as "atheist church" to validate the "atheism is a religion" false meme.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
6. I still attend UU Fellowship, but not for the "church experience".
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:16 AM
Aug 2014

It's really turned into a Community Organizing center for social justice causes. Lots of networking and action. And best of all, no belief in the supernatural, just ourselves and each other.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
12. I'm not a joiner myself but providing an
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:32 AM
Aug 2014

alternative to faith centered communities could be a good way to deflock the charlatans. Not that it hasn't been tried UU and the Ecumenical Humanist Societies have been at this for a long time.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. "I've always missed going to church — ..."
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:41 PM
Aug 2014

Then go!

I mean, if you miss the sermon, you don't miss the religion.

She could just go to the theatre, y'know. A church service is nothing but (often bad) theatre. Hell....where do you think theatre came from?

Don't make up some new "traditional ceremony"; support the arts!

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
9. Maybe these are mostly faitheists
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 07:12 PM
Aug 2014

who still feel the need to be doing something churchy on Sundays, just to feel like they're leaving the door open, and sustaining the habit. There are plenty of ways to find "community" (if one needs that sort of thing) and plenty of outlets for charitable impulses, without having to call them "church".

For myself, being distinctly anti-social, I've never felt the need.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
10. IMHO
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 07:30 PM
Aug 2014

The single best thing about being a non-believer is not having to go to that hour to hour and a half of torture every week.

If someone derives pleasure from that, by all means go, but I won't be joining them.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
11. the only thing I miss about church
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 09:04 PM
Aug 2014

is pot lucks. But given my current disdain about buffets I probably son really miss them, just being sentimental.

nil desperandum

(654 posts)
13. No need for a church
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 04:30 PM
Aug 2014

I guess some folks just need to get together to experience a sense of community in a formalized setting on a set day every week...

It's not for me, but I've no quarrel with any group getting together for whatever reason, including religious people....just do me the courtesy of understanding when you tell me about your group and I'm not interested leave it at that. I don't need your god, your group or your message to do good things in my community and enjoy my life....if I do I will seek you out, and trust me that will never happen.

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