Hey this argument was made in the (R) forum a while ago: All Racists are Atheists

[Heddi]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/29/denver-radio-host-on-donald-sterling-all-racists-are-at-the-end-of-the-day-atheists/
Denver radio host on Donald Sterling: ‘All racists are, at the end of the day, atheists’

Dan Caplis, of KNUS-AM, made the comments Monday morning during a discussion of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, who made bigoted comments against black people during a recorded phone call.

“The roots of this kind of racism, this kind of attitude where somebody really thinks they’re superior to somebody, just because of the color of the other person’s skin? First, what it tells me — you know, my constitutionally-protected opinion about that person — is they don’t believe in God,” Caplis said.

“Nobody who believes in God can be a racist, in my view, because once you believe God made us, you mean, God made junk?” Caplis continued. “God made somebody lesser just by virtue of the color of their skin? So my starting point is always: All racists must be atheists. They can’t possibly believe in God.”

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“I apologize if it was taken that way, but never could’ve imagined somebody would think I was saying that all atheists are racists,” he said. “That would be a goofy thing to say. I was just saying all racists are atheists.”

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Someone should nominate him to be a host next time an opening appears in the Religion Forum

[Warren Stupidity]

1. Somebody just excused homophobia and racism as not being either

if the belief was conditioned by:

They may have truly believed that there were biological, social or cultural reasons reasons to support their position.

See? Isn't that fabulous? You are not a racist if you think there are biological reasons for your racism. See Hitler for example.

[Heddi]

2. there's always a reason why it's okay for Religionists and their supporters to engage

in bad behaviour.

You know, Dawkins, Hitchens, et. al, get raked over the coals every time they compose a sentence that doesn't explicitly state "SOME believers do SOME things SOME times but not EVERYONE ALL THE TIME"

But a religionist can say whatever the fuck they want, with as broad of a brush as they want, using as incorrect historical and political evidence as they want, and hey! Deeply held beliefs! Who are you to judge?

But make ONE comment about religion without a healthy peppering of "some" "not all" "not every" and WHY YOU BIGOTING, HATER?

[defacto7]

19. I think the comment that person made is incorrect...

E.G. Hitler wasn't a Christian for biological, social, or cultural reasons...he was a Christian by choice or in his words, "a Catholic for life" according to Mein Kampf. So I guess he was a racist, a homophobe and a Christian de facto? Must give us pause....

Where does atheism fit in??? That connection alludes me.

[bravenak]

3. Why do i hate myself so much!!!??

Why??
Black atheists must be the worst. Like uncle ruckus.

[Heddi]

4. Another DU'er said that if we (Atheists) didn't have religionists to hate on, we'd go back and

get back to hating on gays and blacks, with the implication that atheists were primarily bigots and homophobes until we started hating on religion.

And it was allowed to stand.

I guess since I'm bisexual, I can hate on the straights AND the gays. So at least I've got that going for me.

[bravenak]

7. That is some crazy shit.

Who can i hate on?? I'm black, so does that mean i have to go around beating myself with a cat o nine tails?? Don't feel like hating on gays. My cousin and his husband might beat me up. Pretty big dudes. Or laugh at me. He's a comedian, that one.

I can't say anything about things that affect me, as i have been told that my personality has flaws.

I have noticed here that minority groups are labeled as discontent idealists. Thats what he called me. Maybe we are all just discontent idealists. All those ideas. Like fairness.

[Vashta Nerada]

16. I'm a bisexual half white/half black guy.

Who in the hell would I hate following that messed up logic?

[AlbertCat]

39. Asexual asians???

[Rob H.]

25. Like I said below, she claimed that wasn't what she meant...

yet she appeared to double down on that exact sentiment not two days ago.

[AlbertCat]

38. get back to hating on gays and blacks

because there are no gays or blacks in their religion????

Alrighty then!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

5. Obviously you chose the wrong parents.

For shame.

[bravenak]

8. My parents were opposite of me. So, i'm sure you are right. :)

My mom is still pushing heaven. I forced her to give up hell, but you know how seventh day adventists are. Or whatever she is ths year. Maybe a christian zionist? Will change soon.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. Although mine sent me to a christianist skule K-6

That experience made me a complete atheist, and they don't mind at all.

[FiveGoodMen]

6. Surely it was bible believers who came up with the 'Curse of Ham'

"The explanation that black Africans, as the "sons of Ham", were cursed, possibly "blackened" by their sins, was advanced only sporadically during the Middle Ages, but it became increasingly common during the slave trade of the 18th and 19th centuries.[56][57] The justification of slavery itself through the sins of Ham was well suited to the ideological interests of the elite; with the emergence of the slave trade, its racialized version justified the exploitation of African labour."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham

[Curmudgeoness]

9. That was just what popped into my mind as well.

I think that the "curse of Ham" is the best example we have of religious racism.

[uriel1972]

10. First thing that popped into my head... nt

[TxDemChem]

13. Yes siree. Our darn black skin makes us sinners.

And don't get me started on Mormonism and blacks

[deucemagnet]

12. BRB, going to inform the Mormons.

[TxDemChem]

14. Damn, you beat me to it!

[deucemagnet]

15. Nah, I just saw a "hidden post" coming and jumped in front to save you from it.

[trotsky]

17. The same logic is on display frequently right here on a liberal site.

The notion that true believers can't do bad things, they couldn't have done it out of sincere religious belief - they must clearly be atheists who are just using religion to try and get away with their crimes.

Or so a CURRENT host of that group tries to keep telling everyone.

[LostOne4Ever]

18. Got to post this for the 2nd time today

[defacto7]

20. You know, I might be able to see their point...

if it weren't for all the STRAW!

strawstrawstrawstrawmen everywhere. The straw man logical fallacy is the most common and simple of all. Add some ad hominem, tu quoque and sprinkle on a little bulverism... now we have the usual arguments on a half-shell.

Ooops, I forgot the argument from Inertia and the non sequitur... can't forget those. We almost have wallpaper.

[Iggo]

27. dAS IST EIN bINGO!

[Iggo]

21. NTS bullshit again.

Sad, but predicktable.

[Rob H.]

22. And don't forget, if religion were to suddenly disappear

and no longer provide a target for atheists, atheists would go back to being racists and homophobes. Oh, and the person who made that claim and then says that's not at all what she meant? She appeared to double down on it two days ago.

[Iggo]

24. I miss okasha.

[Heddi]

30. where'd she go?

[Iggo]

32. Probably nowhere.

She just don't show up on my screen no more.

It's noticeable.

[Heddi]

34. Oh! Haha

Well that makes sense!

[RedstDem]

26. I'm an atheist

And I believe I am superior to all racist. So he may be onto something

[nil desperandum]

28. Racists

Mr. Caplis certainly proves the point that you don't have to have very much intellectual capacity to get a radio gig these days....perhaps he could explain all those good christians opposed to integration during the 60s, or the good bible believing slave owners. Or those wonderfully tolerant folks of the KKK...

Another idiot using his first amendment rights to proclaim his stupidity for all the world to see and review.

I always enjoy opinion not based in any facts at all, it's exactly what most christians use to explain their faith. They have the opinion that a magical sky man will constantly review their daily activities and offer the occasional ability to win a sporting event thanks to some random prayers to said magical sky man. That opinion has no basis in fact, and no basis in any reality whatsoever...so I tend to take their other opinions, especially from the likes of Mr. Caplis with a bit of skepticism as they've already proven a willingness to avoid factual support for their opinions or beliefs.

[defacto7]

35. They have to

avoid factual support for their opinions and beliefs. If they had facts, they would have no faith because facts nullify faith. Faith relies on irrational thought and produces intransigence. So, if their faith is provable it disappears.

It's their circular logic not mine.

[Gore1FL]

29. Cute delusions

Christians used the Bible to justify slavery, then they tormented the slaves until they converted.

[onager]

31. OK, I think I figured this out...

It seems to work this way, at least in That Other Group:

1. If an atheist wants to say "The Pope (or Billy Graham) is dumber than a stump," then they must provide rock-solid evidence of that statement. Preferably by conducting a survey of all deciduous and coniferous stumps and averaging their respective IQs.

2. But if a believer wants to say all atheists are racists and homophobes, they can just arrive at that conclusion by using ESP. No evidence required!

[Iggo]

33. Hey, you! Watch it!

They have a deeply held belief in the impossible.

They're special.

[defacto7]

36. Wow!

I just had a new revelation thanks to you.... Faith = ESP

Now the world makes sense....

..until morning.

[AlbertCat]

37. All Racists are Atheists

Well, duh!

Genes that are cosmetic make all the difference!

And of course Religion doesn't demonize people for their color..... just for whatever other religion (or denomination) they belong to.