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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:54 PM Apr 2013

If you think the sin, you committed the sin...

This is what I was taught growing up in an ultra-Christian household. I remember being scared of my own thoughts as a child.

I remember praying, "God, please don't let me blaspheme by accident."

I know it's stupid, but this is the kind of shit that I was raised with on a daily basis. It's partly why it was so hard to break from the programming.

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If you think the sin, you committed the sin... (Original Post) cynatnite Apr 2013 OP
Yup. Make you feel guilty for things you can't even control. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #1
Proverbs 23:7 defacto7 Apr 2013 #2
Unless you're male and fantasizing about sex Warpy Apr 2013 #3
You aren't serious???? Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #6
Serious as a hanging judge Warpy Apr 2013 #7
Well, it sounds like a dandy religion for men. Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #8
Well, they do, actually Warpy Apr 2013 #9
I still remember, growing up Lutheran... trotsky Apr 2013 #4
You were lucky to get the five seconds. peace13 Apr 2013 #10
I remember learning in Sunday school that if I "checked out" a girl Apophis Apr 2013 #5
Oh yeah, huh! Iggo Apr 2013 #11

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
1. Yup. Make you feel guilty for things you can't even control.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:01 PM
Apr 2013

But that's their god-story anyway.

He makes seven BILLION people -- just counting the ones who are alive now -- and NOT ONE of us pleases him.

...HE made us...

...HE's disappointed with ALL SEVEN BILLION of us...

...But he's not taking any responsibility -- it's OUR FREE WILL.

(If we really had the ability to live up to his expectations, then a few of the seven billion would. But the bible makes clear that no one ever does. It's a rigged game.)

It should really be a crime to tell a child something like that.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
2. Proverbs 23:7
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:37 PM
Apr 2013

As a man thinks in his heart, so is he—Withhold not correction from a child—Be not among drunkards.

What a crock of shit.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
3. Unless you're male and fantasizing about sex
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:39 PM
Apr 2013

Then the woman whose face you hung on your fantasy committed the sin, whether or not she has a clue.

So said the nuns. No wonder I left.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
6. You aren't serious????
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:22 PM
Apr 2013

Nuns taught that to you? Now, I realize that some Muslims believe that all sex crimes and all lust are the fault of the woman, but Catholics? That is so primitive that I don't know what to say about it. Are they really still teaching that shit?

Like I don't have enough of my own sins!!!

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
7. Serious as a hanging judge
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:25 PM
Apr 2013

Males can do very little wrong in the Irish Catholic church. All the sin is shoved onto women.

It's why all we Irish who have stomped off in disgust have nothing but utter contempt for that church and its dogma.

And nothing but compassion for the people who are still mired in it.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. Well, it sounds like a dandy religion for men.
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 06:40 PM
Apr 2013

Can't figure out why all woman wouldn't tell them to go fuck themselves.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
9. Well, they do, actually
Tue Apr 16, 2013, 07:24 PM
Apr 2013

every time they refill their birth control prescriptions. Also, I doubt any priest has heard a female over the age of 10 confess to being an "occasion of sin" to some man she saw leering at her.

Nuns no longer teach that particular party line, either, which is the main reason Rome is furious with them. "What? Make men take responsibility for their own filthy minds? Never!"

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. I still remember, growing up Lutheran...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:41 PM
Apr 2013

after going through the magic spells that forgave us of all our sins for that week, thinking, "Oh, I'm sin-free! I hope I can make this last!" and then 5 seconds later thinking of the girl I had a crush on and lusting after her cute butt and switching to "Well, I made it 5 seconds this time. Not bad!"

So yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
10. You were lucky to get the five seconds.
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:29 AM
Apr 2013

My Lutheran pastor told us that even upon receiving communion we would have sinned before we knew it so technically we were never 'sin-free'.

I was totally wanting to be in control of myself at 16 so the second I received communion I swore in my head, at the alter. I felt comfort 'knowing' the crime I would be charged with! Too funny to think back on. What a pity that religion could not afford more comfort. It's goal is to control the masses and the pastors, priests, ministers and popes do a fine job of it!

 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
5. I remember learning in Sunday school that if I "checked out" a girl
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:48 PM
Apr 2013

I was committing adultery against my future wife.



I left religion shortly after that.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
11. Oh yeah, huh!
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 05:02 PM
Apr 2013

I forgot about that.

Vague memory of Sister Gustave telling me back in the 60's that by the time I committed a sin, I'd already sinned 3 or 4 times.

Wow. Blast from the past. (On the unfortunate side, that poor woman looked exactly like Sgt. Carter, and of course being seven year olds, we giggled until the paddles came out. Good times...)

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