Atheists & Agnostics
Related: About this forumThe "Bane" of "Anti-Catholic Bigotry"
Which of us "bigots" kicked the rock they were hiding under. There is some truly vile slanders flying around from that one.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Far too many Catholics though love to reach for that phrase whenever anyone criticizes their church or its leadership. I don't think they really understand what "bigotry" means.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)Then obviously we aren't doing our job properly. We'll have to step up or the nuns will get us.
They'll board a bus! Whatever shall we do?
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I hear that phrase 'anti-catholic bigotry' a lot lately whenever the subject of paedophile priests, cover ups, or Magdalene Laundries comes up. On the radio show Left, Right & Centre the other day the conservative guest, who had been quite reasonable up that point, completely lost it and went off on a spittle-flying tantrum when Bob Scheer made some very mild remarks about the church and said there hadn't been a good pope since John.
It doesn't quite have the ring of "anti-semitism" or "Islamophobia" in reflexively playing the bigotry card to deflect genuine criticism yet, but that's presumably its purpose.
Rob H.
(5,351 posts)there's a knee-jerk response to rush to the church's defense no matter what they do and go into a rage when someone dares suggest that the church should actually do something about priests who rape children rather than just trying to hush it up and move the priests around to protect them. (And actually leaving the church? Forget about it.)
Another nauseating trend: the claim that, well, there are probably child molesters in any organization over a certain size, so why isn't everyone as bent out of shape about that as they are about child-raping priests? The fact of the matter is most people are at least as repulsed and incensed by that--the key difference is that in a secular organization such as a corporation, if there's evidence that there's been a concerted effort by members and leaders of that company to commit and cover up crimes, those people are arrested, put on trial and go to jail if they're found guilty; you usually don't see their stockholders defending the company leaders' actions or blaming the wider culture for what they did.
Maybe I don't understand because I wasn't a churchgoer growing up, but it seems as if there's a lot of brainwashing involved based on how eager some people seem to be to defend the heinous actions of their religious leaders in situations where if private citizens were to do the same things, they'd be calling for their heads.
Mr.Bill
(24,300 posts)almost every Atheist I meet went to Catholic school. I once worked with an Fundamentlist Christian who said Catholic school is where they train Atheists.
And yes, I am a Catholic school victim and Atheist since around age 12.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)Warpy
(111,267 posts)but that Rome is completely rotten and has been so for centuries (it has). I don't seem to run into too much disagreement, not even from true believer Catholics.
Most Catholics are sensible people who thumb their noses at the old men in dresses and use birth control and resort to abortion when it fails. They, like other people of faith, only circle the wagons when the inner core of nonsense is questioned.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)All I do is say "Fuck the (ex)-Pope" and off to the jury I go. Thankfully this last jury had the common sense to vote to leave it.