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?1345583667From space.com ( http://www.space.com/17217-big-bang-phase-change-theory.html? ) :
Now, a team of physicists says the Big Bang should be modeled as a phase change: the moment when an amorphous, formless universe analogous to liquid water cooled and suddenly crystallized to form four-dimensional space-time, analogous to ice.
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Think of the early universe as being like a liquid, Quach said in a statement. Then as the universe cools, it crystallises into the three spatial and one time dimension that we see today. Theorized this way, as the universe cools, we would expect that cracks should form, similar to the way cracks are formed when water freezes into ice.
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The notion that space and time are emergent properties that suddenly materialized out of an amorphous state was first put forth by physicists at Canadas Perimeter Institute in 2006. Called quantum graphity, the theory holds that the four-dimensional geometry of space-time discovered by Albert Einstein is not fundamental; instead, space-time is more like a lattice constructed of discrete space-time building blocks, just like matter looks continuous, but is actually made of building blocks called atoms.
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longship
(40,416 posts)I also like this idea. It is elegant and simple. It is esthetically pleasing to me. I wish these guys luck.
A state change makes sense because in the Big Bang model incorporated with the standard model the universe goes through several state changes when the four force fields separate from a unified field. This is termed spontaneous symmetry breaking and has been the model for multiple physics Nobel prizes going back to the 70's.
Good show. Maybe Canada gets a future Nobel.
Going to keep an eye on this.
on edit: R&K
Warpy
(111,319 posts)than stuffing the universe into one point, blowing it up, and then having it expand in perpetuity.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)If I'm reading this right, it suggests that the expansion of space is the result of the crystal structure continually building on itself.
However, most of the current thinking seems to suggest that space is stretching (i.e. the EXISTING parts are moving away from each other).
Does this new idea account for that? Or does it DIScount that?
Jim__
(14,082 posts)But I'm not sure that will actually answer your question. Here's a review that's critical of the press releases:
The title of the paper is neutral and to the point: "Domain structures in quantum graphity." Nowhere in the paper do the four authors mention overthrowing the Big Bang model; the paper's purpose and methodology are clear. Quantum graphity is a theory motivated by condensed matter physics (the science of materials at high densities), in which the structure of space-time emerges from a lattice-like structure in the very early Universe.
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I hope that helps.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)They start with points ("vertices" in an environment with unspecified dimensions. A vertex represents the presence of a particle of matter, with matter-related degrees of freedom being possible within a vertex. A vertex is not the same as a position, as of yet, no distances/dimensions/metric have been defined.
Vertices are connected by an "edge", which is treated as a quantum degree of freedom, as a superposition of |0> and |1>.
Next he constructs a Hilbert-space from those edge-states. A group state containing all of the edges contains the info, how all of the vertices are interconnected.
The chaotic state of the early universe is represented by a "complete graph", which means, everything is connected to everything.
Next he uses an Hamiltonian-operator to enforce attributes on the edges. An important attribute is locality, which is represented by a circular loop of edges. He also introduces a punitive potential to ensure that vertices close to each other connect preferably.
The balance between the need to form loops and the need to stay local has a stable state in an energy-minimum. The geometrical representation is a honeycomb lattice. (This is not 2D! The dimensionality of the space the edges represent isn't restricted so far!)
This is a summary of pages 1-3. 8 more pages to go.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)It's just about the process, how space (order) came from non-space (chaos).
kraj8995
(35 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)Silent3
(15,254 posts)When I read stories like this, I have to wonder how much is getting lost in translation going from the complex mathematics of theoretical physics to the wording of popularized science, and how much scientists themselves struggle with getting their minds outside of the framework of time in which human thought processes are so deeply embedded.
Going by the suspect wording of this story, you need to imagine a "time outside of time" in which there is a somehow a progression of events before time exists, a progression much like we experience within the time of our daily lives, from a condition before time exists to a condition when time exists. The word "change" itself is a time-based concept.