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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:42 PM Nov 2013

My God, It's Full Of Stars!



This cluster of stars is known as Messier 15, and is located some 35 000 light-years away in the constellation of Pegasus (The Winged Horse). It is one of the oldest globular clusters known, with an age of around 12 billion years.

Both very hot blue stars and cooler golden stars can be seen swarming together in the image, becoming more concentrated towards the cluster's bright centre. Messier 15 is one of the densest globular clusters known, with most of its mass concentrated at its core. As well as stars, Messier 15 was the first cluster known to host a planetary nebula, and it has been found to have a rare type of black hole at its centre.

This new image is made up of observations from Hubble's Wide Field Camera 3 and Advanced Camera for Surveys in the ultraviolet, infrared, and optical parts of the spectrum.

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1321a/

http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2013/11/hubble-messier-15-star-cluster/
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My God, It's Full Of Stars! (Original Post) n2doc Nov 2013 OP
Spectacular! Thanks - k&r polichick Nov 2013 #1
Wow n/t sharp_stick Nov 2013 #2
A 35,000 year old picture. rdharma Nov 2013 #3
That's hard to get your mind around. A current picture of something that was 35,000 years ago. nt Fla Dem Nov 2013 #28
Probably not a whole lot different. Angleae Nov 2013 #37
I sure hope we have other lives after this one in which to explore LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #4
Of course, you might have said the same thing in a previous life FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #12
The best part is that WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2013 #21
There is a theory that matter cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. And we are matter. jtuck004 Nov 2013 #23
Yes, and eternity is an awfully long time to work out all the combinations. gtar100 Nov 2013 #38
We are all made of star dust. whopis01 Nov 2013 #39
Stunning! -nt CrispyQ Nov 2013 #5
video jakeXT Nov 2013 #6
Always thought it would be cool to have a concrete mount to a telescope.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #29
No cold feet? nt jakeXT Nov 2013 #34
Nor craned necks. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #35
WWCSD Burf-_- Nov 2013 #7
the human condition heaven05 Nov 2013 #18
I think I'd enjoy living life around a globular cluster star. tridim Nov 2013 #8
The sky would be beautiful. AlbertCat Nov 2013 #24
You know what I meant. :) tridim Nov 2013 #25
You know what I meant. :) AlbertCat Nov 2013 #31
With all the light polution, I forget the sky is full of stars. Thanks broiles Nov 2013 #9
Thought maybe you were talking about the monolith Cheap_Trick Nov 2013 #10
I didn't know your name was Dave. riqster Nov 2013 #11
The distance between the stars in the center is still 1/4 LY apart... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #13
They'd probably have too crazy a climate for most life if they didn't even stay FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #14
I didn't mean the planet would drift around in there... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #17
You're right. The sky would really be something, wouldn't it? FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #30
Lousy vacation spot for a vampire. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #32
The comets/etc alone would be something else Posteritatis Nov 2013 #42
In all likelyhood there would be Oort rivers. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #43
or puddles.......... lastlib Jul 2014 #45
Black hole at its center vacuuming them all up ErikJ Nov 2013 #15
Awesome! burrowowl Nov 2013 #16
I think that just made my cataracts worse! :-) WinkyDink Nov 2013 #19
Dave, is that you? MyNameGoesHere Nov 2013 #20
I love these gorgeous pictures. TY so much for posting this. nt Hekate Nov 2013 #22
They got their Christmas lights up early! JEFF9K Nov 2013 #26
Spectacular. ---And we have the nerve to think we are the only ones? n/t Paper Roses Nov 2013 #27
Astronomy camp! SheilaT Nov 2013 #33
Wow, just incredable beauty. Northerner Nov 2013 #36
Huge Rec! BrotherIvan Nov 2013 #40
With the cluster at about 80%; greiner3 Nov 2013 #41
"My Stars! It's full of God!!" lastlib Jul 2014 #44

Fla Dem

(23,769 posts)
28. That's hard to get your mind around. A current picture of something that was 35,000 years ago. nt
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:42 PM
Nov 2013

LuvNewcastle

(16,860 posts)
4. I sure hope we have other lives after this one in which to explore
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 01:58 PM
Nov 2013

this vast cosmos. Otherwise, what is the point of these pitifully short lives we have? Thinking about that is frustrating as hell.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
23. There is a theory that matter cannot be created or destroyed, only changed. And we are matter.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:28 PM
Nov 2013

When this combination that made us changes, whatever it is that is the human spirit (nothing to do with religion, btw) simply goes back out into the universe. Part will be incorporated in others, part simply becomes part of whatever is out there. And will become part of what is there at a deeper level than we ever could as humans.

So perhaps you will get your wish. I hope so.

whopis01

(3,525 posts)
39. We are all made of star dust.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 01:04 PM
Nov 2013

If you put enough hydrogen together, and leave it alone long enough, it will begin to contemplate itself.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
29. Always thought it would be cool to have a concrete mount to a telescope....
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:45 PM
Nov 2013

Then quality gearing for the tracking. Then the ultimate would be an HD digital camera hooked to a projector inside.

Point and click and then look at the wall.

 

Burf-_-

(205 posts)
7. WWCSD
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:51 PM
Nov 2013

"If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?"

"The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves."

~Carl Sagan x2 ~

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. the human condition
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:40 PM
Nov 2013

succinctly put. But, I really did enjoy Carl Sagan's intellect since it dealt with an existence full of stars and galaxies and not earthly hot air that's getting hotter all the time. I, like a poster in this OP, hope that rights to visit other galaxies are accorded our consciousness after death here.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
31. You know what I meant. :)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:48 PM
Nov 2013

Yes I did. I was teasing of course.

That reminds me....


I must remember to get up before dawn to see if I can see the "new" comet!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. The distance between the stars in the center is still 1/4 LY apart...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:21 PM
Nov 2013

If there are planets in those clusters and advanced life, can you imagine them hopscotching around in there before venturing into the void that is the rest of the galaxy? It would be like us exploring the Milky Way before venturing into the void between galaxies but on a micro-scale.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. I didn't mean the planet would drift around in there...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:32 PM
Nov 2013

It's more like this:



A lot more incentive to get to the next star when it's so close even by rocket.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
15. Black hole at its center vacuuming them all up
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:25 PM
Nov 2013

will be 35,000 yrs before we know what happened. It might be gone now for all we know.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
33. Astronomy camp!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 05:33 PM
Nov 2013

Last month I did an adult astronomy camp through the University of Arizona, spent two days on Mount Lemmon (some 9,000 feet) and got to see that globular cluster and lots of other stuff through a 61 inch telescope.

It was beyond cool.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
40. Huge Rec!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:07 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks so much for posting this. I weep a little every time I think about how we not only have severely slashed space programs in favor of weapons--demonstrating succinctly our insanity--but people say, "Who cares about space?" To be able to see such a gorgeous photo is beyond all imagining. And humbling. So perhaps that's the reason people say they don't care, they don't want to miss a beat and realize we are less than specks.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
41. With the cluster at about 80%;
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:43 PM
Nov 2013

Of the age of the universe, I would imagine M15 holds an amazing trove of info about what happened so long ago.

I would imagine it would be like the discovery of a huge chunk of the Earth suddenly found to be 3.5 billion years old.

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