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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:47 PM Oct 2013

Giant Underground Stone Boxes Near The Pyramids In Egypt.

Giant Underground Stone Boxes Near The Pyramids In Egypt? Mysterious giant boxes below the Egyptian sands. More than 20 boxes were discovered. This is interesting and you can see everything very clearly. Watch :



Extensive video. I can only conclude that the Egyptians used methods which were then lost.
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Giant Underground Stone Boxes Near The Pyramids In Egypt. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Oct 2013 OP
Simple explanation, copper tools with sand used to work some of the hardest stone on the planet. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1
you MFM008 Oct 2013 #3
People don't want to believe that the ancients were every bit as smart as we are and that, struggle4progress Oct 2013 #9
What's old is new again: PeoViejo Oct 2013 #11
Engineering copper polishing pads for granite would have been well within Egyptian capabilities struggle4progress Oct 2013 #14
Fascinating! silverweb Oct 2013 #2
Things like this make you wonder. Does our civilization rise and fall....... wandy Oct 2013 #4
People of the Stone Age knew an incredible amount about stone starroute Oct 2013 #5
A few old women know how to use ancient computer code. TexasProgresive Oct 2013 #12
If you say so starroute Oct 2013 #15
The old boys as usual took the credit. TexasProgresive Oct 2013 #16
Now that's fascinating starroute Oct 2013 #17
... progressoid Oct 2013 #6
Here's a lengthy article by Christopher Dunn, who's featured in the video starroute Oct 2013 #7
I've bookmarked that link. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #10
The Serapeum at Saqqara was discovered in the late nineteenth century. Like most other known tombs struggle4progress Oct 2013 #8
Maddening the answer is still so far away! Overwhelming. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2013 #13
No doubt the proportions of these boxes will involve some magic ratio. tclambert Oct 2013 #18
Probably dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #19
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Simple explanation, copper tools with sand used to work some of the hardest stone on the planet.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

And lots of elbow grease.

Actually, there are no reasonable scientifically plausible explanations for how many of these things were created.

Lost technologies are unarguably at play.

It wasn't that long ago that humankind didn't have the recipe for hydraulic cement, lost to the ancients and rediscovered, now used universally.

We may never know how the ancient wonders of the world were created.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
9. People don't want to believe that the ancients were every bit as smart as we are and that,
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 02:24 AM
Oct 2013

compared to many of us, they worked their frickin heads off

Here's a nice overview of ancient Egyptian stone working: http://www.oocities.org/unforbidden_geology/ancient_egyptian_stone_vase_making.html

Apparently a copper or stone tool, with sand as an added abrasive and a bow-powered drill-shaft, can reproduce the ancient basalt vases found in Egypt in about two modern work-weeks, not counting polishing time. An experienced craftsman, working ten or twelve hour days, might have knocked them off at the rate of one every three to five days

Polishing the bulls' sarcophagi might have taken a team of experienced polishers months, but it wasn't an impossibility

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
11. What's old is new again:
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 12:19 PM
Oct 2013

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struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
14. Engineering copper polishing pads for granite would have been well within Egyptian capabilities
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 02:42 PM
Oct 2013

though I don't know whether they actually did so

A flat piece of copper worked over a layer of quartz sand could work. Quartz is the hardest mineral in granite, so regularly replenished sand can polish granite. The copper is ductile, so any applied pressure will tend to embed quartz grains into a copper pad, producing a primitive sand-paper. And copper is much softer than quartz, so it can't scratch the granite itself. Such copper pads could be remelted and re-used: quartz is much less dense than copper, so should float to the top of a melt and be skimmed off

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
2. Fascinating!
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:40 PM
Oct 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I'm sure we'll be hearing more about these as time goes on and I'm looking forward to it.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
4. Things like this make you wonder. Does our civilization rise and fall.......
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:11 PM
Oct 2013

loosing some knowledge and technology each time, only to relearn or reinvent it the next time around.
Or.
Is the reason we have not as yet found the "Stargate" is only because we have not found the "Stargate". Yet!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. People of the Stone Age knew an incredible amount about stone
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:33 PM
Oct 2013

They'd been working with it for tens of thousands of years and they were experts. Once we got into metallurgy, we started acquiring knowledge of metals but lost some of what we'd known before.

So yes, there are lost technologies -- but they're not the same as our present-day technology. They're whatever people were doing at the time and then lost interest in. Heck, there are even certain early computer languages that hardly anybody but a few old men still know how to work with -- which is getting to be a real problem for legacy systems written in them.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
12. A few old women know how to use ancient computer code.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 01:30 PM
Oct 2013
Heck, there are even certain early computer languages that hardly anybody but a few old men still know how to work with

starroute

(12,977 posts)
15. If you say so
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:05 PM
Oct 2013

My impression was that except for Admiral Hopper, programming was kind of an old boy's club until the 1960s. But I'm probably just going by my own experience.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
16. The old boys as usual took the credit.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:06 PM
Oct 2013

My mother (RIP) was a scientific programer in COBAL, FORTRAN and I don't know what else. She carried Top Secret and Q level clearances. My co-worker's mother has the same background in those same computer languages and came out of retirement to work correcting the Y2K problems. She and other old timers working behind the scenes fixed all the problems with Y2K so well that most people think it was much ado about nothing.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
8. The Serapeum at Saqqara was discovered in the late nineteenth century. Like most other known tombs
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 01:53 AM
Oct 2013

in the region, it was evidently robbed in antiquity, but at least one intact bull-burial has been found there. In the mid-twentieth century, similar catacombs were located in the region containing baboon, falcon, and ibis mummies

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
18. No doubt the proportions of these boxes will involve some magic ratio.
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:28 PM
Oct 2013

Or something within 10% of a supposedly magic ratio. 1.618 comes to mind.

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