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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:53 PM Jun 2013

"Less time separates us from Tyrannosaurus rex than separated T. rex from Stegosaurus"

You can’t understand dinosaurs without a sense of time. We need to know when a dinosaur lived to comprehend how it fits into what paleontologist William Diller Matthew called “life’s splendid drama.” But we throw around Deep Time estimates, framed in millions of years, so often that it’s easy to become inured to the wider context of life’s history.

The Mesozoic Era, which lasted from about 250 million to 66 million years ago, is often called the Age of Dinosaurs. As a kid, this brought to mind one endless summer when dinosaurs flourished. And many of the books I read picked one environment from three different periods within the era to represent dinosaur life. Little Coelophysis was the canonical Triassic dinosaur; the huge sauropods and theropods of the Morrison Formation represented the Jurassic, and a Cretaceous Tyrannosaurus versus Triceratops face-off ultimately capped off the succession. With the periods juxtaposed this way, millions of years didn’t seem so very long.

But let’s unpack some of that scenery. Diplodocus, Apatosaurus, Allosaurus, Stegosaurus and their neighbors roamed western North America about 150 million years ago. This slice of time falls in the latter portion of the Jurassic. The traditional representatives of the latest Cretaceous scene—Tyrannosaurus and Triceratops—did not evolve until about 67 million years ago. By themselves, these dates are just labels, but think of them falling along evolution’s timeline. About 83 million years separated Apatosaurus from Tyrannosaurus and Allosaurus from Triceratops. The so-called Age of Mammals—which began when the non-avian dinosaurs were wiped out—has been going on for about 66 million years. Less time separates us from Tyrannosaurus rex than separated T. rex from Stegosaurus.

Consider how much life has changed in the past 66 million years. Archaic mammals flourished and ultimately went extinct long before anything like the world’s modern fauna appeared. Saber-fanged, knobbly-headed herbivores such as Uintatherium, lemur-like primates called adapiforms, razor-jawed carnivores known as creodonts and many other strange forms proliferated and disappeared. Even lineages familiar to us today, such as horses, rhinos and elephants, evolved and diversified and are now represented by just remnants of what once existed.

Read more: http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/dinosaur/2012/04/on-dinosaur-time/#ixzz2X6AWYEOB
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"Less time separates us from Tyrannosaurus rex than separated T. rex from Stegosaurus" (Original Post) morningfog Jun 2013 OP
... Ian David Jun 2013 #1
Perspective changes just a bit in that light. silverweb Jun 2013 #2
It ought to be an impetus for the people who go "why do we spend money on space hurr durr" Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #6
Ought to be. silverweb Jun 2013 #7
I thought it was "herp derp" demwing Jun 2013 #11
LOL silverweb Jun 2013 #12
Ermagerd Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #18
HA! silverweb Jun 2013 #19
But Dinosaurs didn't die out, only the non Avian. That Starling that just crapped on alfredo Jun 2013 #14
A mile-size asteroid smashing into Earth is a bad day for everyone. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #17
That's the kind of stuff that happens right after I wash the car. alfredo Jun 2013 #20
It was just over 50 years ago Politicalboi Jun 2013 #3
There you go! Photographic evidence for the fundamentalists among us. gtar100 Jun 2013 #9
Where do you think the idea came from? formercia Jun 2013 #13
LOL! gtar100 Jun 2013 #15
DUZY flamin lib Jun 2013 #23
One of the first things I noticed pokerfan Jun 2013 #4
Good point. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #5
Whhhhhatttt, no such thing as dinosaurs ... MindMover Jun 2013 #8
I'd be happy if the T-Rex returned rpannier Jun 2013 #10
They would be raptored then Paulie Jun 2013 #16
DUzy !! nt longship Jun 2013 #24
I had the weirdest thought about T-Rexs the other day. Bolo Boffin Jun 2013 #21
Hehe.. Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #22

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
2. Perspective changes just a bit in that light.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:28 PM
Jun 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Not that I'm any less fervent about taking care of the Earth in this light, but the long perspective reinforces what Carlin said on the whole "saving the planet" subject: The Planet and her varied abundance of life forms will be just fine; it is we, as a foolish and short-sighted species, who are doing ourselves in.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. It ought to be an impetus for the people who go "why do we spend money on space hurr durr"
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:36 AM
Jun 2013

Uh, among other things, so we can potentially avoid what happened to the Dinosaurs.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
7. Ought to be.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:49 AM
Jun 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]However, in my experience, people who go "hurr durr" aren't quite bright enough to understand any coherent answers, anyway.



alfredo

(60,074 posts)
14. But Dinosaurs didn't die out, only the non Avian. That Starling that just crapped on
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jun 2013

your shoulder is a tiny dinosaur.








We need to grow wings and feathers.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. A mile-size asteroid smashing into Earth is a bad day for everyone.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jun 2013

One of the best reasons i can think of for humans being aware of whats going on in the solar system.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
13. Where do you think the idea came from?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jun 2013

If you play the Flintstones theme song backwards, you will hear a sermon from Pat Robertson in the background.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
21. I had the weirdest thought about T-Rexs the other day.
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

Someone said that kangaroos were the mammals' T-Rexs because of their little forearms. And that made me think: what if that worked both ways?

What if T-Rexs hopped?

I know it's funny to think about those big reptiles bouncing around, especially after all the movies. But if one came hopping after me, I wouldn't be laughing for long.

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