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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:27 AM May 2013

Weird Geological Features Spied on Mars

Observation of the strange features discovered by the HiRISE camera on NASA's Mars Reconaissance Orbiter (MRO) at the southern edge of Acidalia Planitia on Mars. The main cluster of pits on the left side of the photo are approximately 500 meters long and 100 meters wide.

We may be routinely orbiting, roving, drilling and lasing Mars, searching for elusive traces of life and reconnoitering sites for future human missions, but that doesn't mean studies of the red planet don't throw up surprises. On the contrary.

Take this March 21, 2013 observation by the High-Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on board NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) of the southern edge of Acidalia Planitia, a plain located in the planet's northern hemisphere.



These irregular depressions with weird raised rims aren't impact craters and they can't be wind-blown features as the pits contain boulders that could not have been moved by the Martian winds. HiRISE mission scientists don't believe they could be caused by volcanism either.


http://news.discovery.com/space/mystery-geology-mars-hirise-mro-130507.htm


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Weird Geological Features Spied on Mars (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter May 2013 OP
Alaskan Bullworm tracks... Tikki May 2013 #1
you don't mean that zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #35
DOH my bad zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #36
The Alaskan Bullworm.... Tikki May 2013 #37
a one legged dinosaur? MFM008 May 2013 #2
...pushing a wheelbarrow? lastlib May 2013 #10
Bizarre defacto7 May 2013 #3
That whole gallery is remarkable! Ichingcarpenter May 2013 #6
Oh, My! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #4
Ha.. That's it! defacto7 May 2013 #15
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking that! Yo_Mama May 2013 #24
I'm always glad to play that function on DU. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #25
Sandworm tracks. longship May 2013 #5
Tracks of a Spice Harvester more likely Ichingcarpenter May 2013 #8
Oh PLEASE JackInGreen May 2013 #9
Has anyone seen the carryall lately? ElboRuum May 2013 #31
Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which not even God has seen. ElboRuum May 2013 #29
Really? Scootaloo May 2013 #7
Well, lessee here... ElboRuum May 2013 #30
Unicycle? CanonRay May 2013 #11
Hard to imagine because of lack of scale N_E_1 for Tennis May 2013 #12
Might be a hot spot JimDandy May 2013 #13
It's an electrical universe. TheJames May 2013 #14
Oh, god, not that again. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #16
Ugh, one of you again. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #40
bruno maglis arely staircase May 2013 #17
LOL!!! AmBlue May 2013 #41
Resemblance to the San Andreas fault in CA? Cleita May 2013 #18
My first thought. n/m El Supremo May 2013 #26
interesting proud patriot May 2013 #38
Nobody's asking the most obvious question. noamnety May 2013 #19
Check this one out... nikto May 2013 #20
My guess is sand dunes inside a arroyo (gully) denbot May 2013 #22
Huh? Doesn't fit with my picture at all nikto May 2013 #43
There are no geologic or geographic features on Mars, but you knew that. -n/t ArtiChoke May 2013 #21
My guess is some form of upwelling process. denbot May 2013 #23
Kind of looks secondvariety May 2013 #27
The blobs on the right look like barchan sand dunes. El Supremo May 2013 #28
Get on Google Maps sofa king May 2013 #32
Excellent! El Supremo May 2013 #39
martian heaven05 May 2013 #33
It's the skeleton of a large monster penis itsrobert May 2013 #34
The edges of plates? Shankapotomus May 2013 #42

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
3. Bizarre
Wed May 8, 2013, 02:45 AM
May 2013

It definitely looks like multiple overlaying liquefying events. Maybe pressure beneath creating jets and coalescing of surface dust and material, drying in relatively quick order. There is some "tectonic" thing happening too... just bizarre.

That whole gallery is remarkable!

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
24. I'm so glad I wasn't the only one thinking that!
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:58 PM
May 2013

I was feeling so guilty for being childish. Now I am laughing openly without the guilt.

Jokes aside, it is a really interesting discovery. You have to wonder if some sort of a rift won't provide the explanation.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
25. I'm always glad to play that function on DU.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:08 PM
May 2013

Saying the inane juvenile stuff so others don't have to.

Seriously, though, it is cool... There's some interesting stuff happening on Mars. I suspect some of it may be subsurface ice that is constantly being sublimated, or else melting briefly into liquid and then quickly boiling/evaporating not long after.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Sandworm tracks.
Wed May 8, 2013, 03:15 AM
May 2013


Anyway, that's what Richard C. Hoagland told me. After all, he's an expert on these things. Or so he claims.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. Really?
Wed May 8, 2013, 04:18 AM
May 2013

Up until now, we've only had one planet to draw conclusions from. So we finally get on a new one and judge things ot be "weird," or "strange"?

Looks to me that our highly tectonic, densely-atmosphered world covered in liquid water is probably the weird one.

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
30. Well, lessee here...
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:52 PM
May 2013

Mercury. Hot enough to melt lead during the day, frigid beyond imagining at night. Has an iron core that takes up most of its interior.

Venus. 800 degrees and crushing pressure at the surface and and atmosphere containing sulfuric acid. Winds at the cloud tops make tornadoes look like a fresh summer breeze.

Earth. Mostly harmless. Has a moon that is of ridiculous size as compared to itself. Supports life. No biggie.

Mars. Whisper thin atmosphere of primarily carbon dioxide. May have once had mild temperatures, a thick atmosphere, and free running water. Dust storms lasting weeks are common.

Jupiter. Has more mass of all other planets combined, cyclonic storms lasting millenia, lightning bolts which make Earth lightning look like a spark from a door knob. Not a solid surface to be found. Pressures so great in its interior that hydrogen behaves like a liquid metal.

Saturn. Has ears. Has a hexagonal wind pattern at the south pole. Massive, but with a density such that if you had a vat of water it could fit in, Saturn would float.

Uranus. Blue-green gas giant with an axial tilt that causes its poles to be pointed at the Sun in its winters and summers.

Neptune. Same as Uranus, only with a more reasonable axial tilt and a bit bluer. Kind of boring if you think about it.

And that's not even starting on the moons.

If you can find a definition of what constitutes "average" in any of this, you're better at this than I am.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,775 posts)
12. Hard to imagine because of lack of scale
Wed May 8, 2013, 12:13 PM
May 2013

But that being said, I have witnessed somewhat the same ground formation on small streams by me.
One side is a little built up due to activity by "underground muckers", the other side is eroded by flow from the higher ground, leaving rivulets almost like the ones seen here.

Muckers = things like turtles etc. they have a tendency to build up sediment on one side of a stream to enhance the possibility of catching food in good flowing water, leaving the formations seen.
The "channels" on the other side remind me of banks that lost the foliage and the erosion that takes place.

Please I am not a scientist, just a avid hiker and observer of my surroundings.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
13. Might be a hot spot
Wed May 8, 2013, 01:43 PM
May 2013

directly under the surface. As the land mass moved over it, the surface softened, sunk down and bubbled up (like the bubbles in a cream sauce on the stove) over and over, in spot after spot.

ETA: it's really tiring to see photo after photo from mars with NO scale. Come on scientists, get your scale on.

TheJames

(120 posts)
14. It's an electrical universe.
Wed May 8, 2013, 05:40 PM
May 2013

I've been a welder for 35 yrs. That is an arc discharge track. See "The Electric Universe' for the explanation that the mainstream is ignoring.
By the way, I have personally reproduced these contours in miniature with my TIG welder at work, after I saw something similar, labeled as "proof of water erosion", and it looked too much like certain craters in steel that I had previously encountered.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. Oh, god, not that again.
Wed May 8, 2013, 07:02 PM
May 2013

Those natural patterns you see all over the place are known as fractals.



They're math. They are not proof of an electrical anything.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
20. Check this one out...
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:08 AM
May 2013

If you can identify this thing, good for you.

The spiral parts are huge--several hundred yards wide.


(taken by Mars Global Surveyor, around 1999)

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
43. Huh? Doesn't fit with my picture at all
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:22 PM
May 2013

But hey, maybe this is a sand dune too...



Nope.

I am talking specifically about the spiral forms that degenerate into "hubcap-shapes on a tube" shape
in the slightly above middle, left side area.

And please don't use the stale old "Ugly hag or pretty maiden" illusion in your response.

Really look.




There may be a geo-based explanation. But I doubt it's sand dunes,

denbot

(9,901 posts)
23. My guess is some form of upwelling process.
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:59 PM
May 2013

Pools formed with either some form of precipitant, or evaporation forming ridges around the edges.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
32. Get on Google Maps
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:25 PM
May 2013

Hit satellite view. Copy and paste this location into the window:

Ad Dahinah, Riyadh Province, Saudi Arabia

Look 2000 meters to the East of that town. I think they call that feature a "wadi," but don't take my word for it.

This particular formation may well be Arthur C. Clarke's "Glass Worm." The Bad Astronomer put most of the controversy about that feature to bed by pointing out that the sensationalists were using the trick of positioning the image in such a way that the brain sees the feature as convex instead of concave.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/glassworm.html

For me, this feature makes more sense to me when I invert it. The original from above:



And the same image rotated 180 degrees:



And here's the feature from Ad Dahinah, with some tricky rotation:



 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
33. martian
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:52 AM
May 2013

tire tracks. Where it stops? flat tire. Be glad when we get to the bottom of the mystery of Mars, or the Martians get sick of us running robots all over the place and attack us and make us a colony.

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