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Redfairen

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Mon Mar 4, 2013, 01:05 PM Mar 2013

New Discovery Challenges Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, Advancing Quantum Mechanics

Heisenberg's famous Uncertainty Principle may not be as uncertain as once thought. Researchers have applied a recently developed a technique to directly measure the polarization of light, which overcomes some important challenges of the principle and is also applicable to qubits, the building blocks of the quantum information theory.

The findings, published in the journal Nature Photonics, used a direct measurement technique that was first developed in 2011 by scientists at the National Research Council, Canada. It was first created in order to measure the wavefunction, which is a way of determining the state of a quantum system.

The Uncertainty Principle itself is used in quantum mechanics. It's any of a variety of mathematical inequalities asserting a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties of a particle can be known simultaneously. This is why the direct measurement of the wavefunction has long seemed impossible--certain properties of a system could only be known poorly if other related properties were known with precision.

The newest findings from researchers challenge this long-held belief, though. Previously, researchers only were able to use a technique called quantum tomography to measure the information in these states indirectly. Yet the new technique that this experiment employed allowed them to measure information directly. The scientists measured the polarization states of light, the directions in which magnetic fields of the light oscillate. The key result was that it was actually possible to measure key related variables of a quantum particle or state directly.

http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/5347/20130304/new-discovery-challenges-heisenbergs-uncertainty-principle-advancing-quantum-mechanics.htm

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New Discovery Challenges Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, Advancing Quantum Mechanics (Original Post) Redfairen Mar 2013 OP
Okay, but... longship Mar 2013 #1
It reminds me of Boyles Gas Law with Temperature/Energy being a constant and where DhhD Mar 2013 #2

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Okay, but...
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

The Heisenberg Uncertainty principle only puts a limit on the precision, not a total prohibition.

(delta)x (delta)p >= h-bar/2

It's the h-bar/2 which states the limit. That's determined by h, Planck's constant. It's a very small number.

h-bar is 1.054571726×10?34 J-sec

You'd have a hard time convincing me that they have made measurements to the precision necessary to demonstrate a violation.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
2. It reminds me of Boyles Gas Law with Temperature/Energy being a constant and where
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 05:34 PM
Mar 2013

pressure and volume relate indirectly to one another: the product of the two phases.
Volume contained by pressure, pressure contained by volume, at set energy.

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