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LunaSea

(2,895 posts)
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:10 AM Sep 2012

NASA Ready for Humans Beyond the Moon

Top NASA officials have picked a leading candidate for the agency's next major mission: construction of a new outpost that would send astronauts farther from Earth than at any time in history.

The so-called "gateway spacecraft" would hover in orbit on the far side of the moon, support a small astronaut crew and function as a staging area for future missions to the moon and Mars.

At 277,000 miles from Earth, the outpost would be far more remote than the current space station, which orbits a little more than 200 miles above Earth. The distance raises complex questions of how to protect astronauts from the radiation of deep space — and rescue them if something goes wrong.
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Documents obtained by the Orlando Sentinel show that NASA wants to build a small outpost — likely with parts left over from the $100 billion International Space Station — at what's known as the Earth-Moon Lagrange Point 2, a spot about 38,000 miles from the moon and 277,000 miles from Earth.

At that location, the combined gravities of the Earth and moon reach equilibrium, making it possible to "stick" an outpost there with minimal power required to keep it in place.

To get there, NASA would use the massive rocket and space capsule that it is developing as a successor to the retired space shuttle. A first flight of that rocket is planned for 2017, and construction of the outpost would begin two years later, according to NASA planning documents.

Potential missions include the study of nearby asteroids or dispatching robotic trips to the moon that would gather moon rocks and bring them back to astronauts at the outpost. The outpost also would lay the groundwork for more-ambitious trips to Mars' moons and even Mars itself, about 140 million miles away on average.

Placing a "spacecraft at the Earth-Moon Lagrange point beyond the moon as a test area for human access to deep space is the best near-term option to develop required flight experience and mitigate risk," concluded the NASA report.

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NASA Ready for Humans Beyond the Moon (Original Post) LunaSea Sep 2012 OP
Mitt first please. jpbollma Sep 2012 #1
They did use the "r" word farther down in the story. calimary Sep 2012 #2
an excellent idea! LunaSea Sep 2012 #4
The Earth-Moon L2 is on the interplanetary superhighway longship Sep 2012 #3
Visual littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #5
Update LunaSea Sep 2012 #6
We need fusion for this, too Occulus Sep 2012 #7
Alan Boyle: Beyond-the-moon base stirs up buzz bananas Sep 2012 #8
Yeah they can be "ready" for a lot of things. But without funding Phoonzang Sep 2012 #9

calimary

(81,434 posts)
2. They did use the "r" word farther down in the story.
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:43 AM
Sep 2012

Sounds like they're already making room for him:

"Indeed, the first construction flight in 2019 is labeled "unfunded" in briefing charts, as is a robotic "sample return" moon mission in 2022." That's mittski's part right there!

LunaSea

(2,895 posts)
6. Update
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:54 AM
Sep 2012

NASA PAO has provided this verbose, stock-phrase rich, non-denial-denial response to the Orlando Sentinel article: "NASA is executing President Obama's ambitious space exploration plan that includes missions around the moon, to asteroids, and ultimately putting humans on Mars. There are many options - and many routes - being discussed on our way to the Red Planet. In addition to the moon and an asteroid, other options may be considered as we look for ways to buy down risk - and make it easier - to get to Mars. We have regular meetings with OMB, OSTP, Congress, and other stakeholders to keep them apprised of our progress on our deep space exploration destinations. This concept is a part of the Voyages document that we mentioned in an earlier Update posted on NASA.gov in June: http://go.nasa.gov/NASAvoyages." Refer to page 26 of the chapter titled, "Habitation and Destination Capabilities."

http://nasawatch.com/archives/2012/09/nasa-ready-to-a.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nasawatch%2FAekt+%28NASA+Watch%29

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
7. We need fusion for this, too
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:53 PM
Sep 2012

It'll happen- we really ought to do a Manhattan Project for fusion power and propulsion- and things like this will handily demonstrate its necessity.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
8. Alan Boyle: Beyond-the-moon base stirs up buzz
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012
http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/24/14072181-beyond-the-moon-base-stirs-up-buzz?lite

Beyond-the-moon base stirs up buzz

By Alan Boyle


NASA / Boeing via NASASpaceflight.com
An artist's conception shows a deep-space transfer vehicle flying near a exploration gateway platform at right.


A concept that calls for building a deep-space outpost beyond the moon's orbit has stirred up some positive buzz from space pioneers — including Apollo 11 moonwalker Buzz Aldrin.

Over the weekend, the Orlando Sentinel reported that top NASA officials have chosen the construction of a space exploration platform at a gravitational balance point known as EML-2, or Earth-moon Lagrange point 2, as the agency's next major mission. The outpost would be held in an orbit 277,000 miles away from Earth, and 38,000 miles beyond the moon.

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Aldrin has long urged NASA to set up a similar "floating launching pad" at a different balance point between Earth and the moon, called EML-1 or L1, and this weekend he said that platforms at L1 or L2, plus fueling depots for spaceships, would serve as appropriate "intermediate steps" for voyages to Mars and other worlds.

"It's part of my unified space vision," he told me during an international gathering of spacefliers and mission managers at Seattle's Museum of Flight.

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Phoonzang

(2,899 posts)
9. Yeah they can be "ready" for a lot of things. But without funding
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012

they're going to sit around being ready for quite a long time...

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