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Behind the Aegis

(53,961 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:29 AM Jan 2019

(Jewish Group) Rashida Tlaib should at least learn the history behind the dual loyalty canard

(THIS IS THE JEWISH GROUP! RESPECT!!)

A great American Jewish jurist once argued against the idea of a “hyphenated American.” He said there was no place in America for immigrants and their children to hold on to differences based on “race or creed.”

“[T]o keep alive difference of origin or to classify men according to their religious beliefs are inconsistent with American idea of brotherhood, and are disloyal,” he argued.

A few years later, a great American Zionist leader argued that there is nothing more American or patriotic than holding “multiple loyalties” — to God, to country, to your land of origin.

“Multiple loyalties are objectionable only if they are inconsistent,” he wrote. “Every Irish American who contributed towards advancing home rule was a better man and a better American for the sacrifice he made. Every American Jew who aids in advancing the Jewish settlement in Palestine, though he feels that neither he nor his descendants will ever live there, will likewise be a better man and a better American for doing so.”

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My point being that even if she didn’t aim her tweet at Jews, Tlaib should have been aware of the toxicity of her formula and avoided it. Progressives, in making their case against President Trump, will note how he traffics in dog whistles — and say that whether or not he does so on purpose is beside the point. A dog whistle is a dog whistle. If Tlaib was unaware of the dual loyalty debate, which I doubt, she should at least acknowledge the ways that words like hers have been used against Jews and, yes, Palestinians and Muslims.

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(Jewish Group) Rashida Tlaib should at least learn the history behind the dual loyalty canard (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Jan 2019 OP
I find it ironic that Representaitve Tlaib is very selective in who she views with "dual loyalties" still_one Jan 2019 #1
Excellent point MosheFeingold Jan 2019 #2
Her argument that this is an issue of free speech is problematic also I believe. For example, still_one Jan 2019 #3
She is the darling of DU at the moment. EllieBC Jan 2019 #4
Sure, why only AOC, or Omar? question everything Jan 2019 #5
Oh Dear Ellie MosheFeingold Jan 2019 #8
K&R! JudyM Jan 2019 #6
Why MosheFeingold Jan 2019 #9
I know what you mean but I think this may open the eyes of some. JudyM Jan 2019 #10
She will accomplish what many Republicans have hoped: gaining the Jewish votes question everything Jan 2019 #7

still_one

(92,243 posts)
1. I find it ironic that Representaitve Tlaib is very selective in who she views with "dual loyalties"
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:29 AM
Jan 2019

Perhaps she should look in the mirror.

still_one

(92,243 posts)
3. Her argument that this is an issue of free speech is problematic also I believe. For example,
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jan 2019

there are anti-discrimination laws in government hiring and contracts. From her perspective would that also be considered a free speech violation also, because companies who want to do business with the government aren't allowed to discriminate?






question everything

(47,488 posts)
5. Sure, why only AOC, or Omar?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jan 2019

The way to stay in the public eye, as Coulter and others have found, is to say outrageous things. That DUers embrace her - have not seen any, I admit, do not read everything - is shameful.

Wonder how many posts were hidden for att.., ahem, not agreeing with her..


MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
9. Why
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:57 PM
Jan 2019

So we can hear the usual canards and double-standard arguments about Israel?

Or that we Jews have "white privilege" and need to just shut up and take it?

There is only so much hate I can take.

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