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MyMission

(1,850 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 11:24 PM Oct 2023

We are serious when we say: 'Never Again'

On Oct. 7, Hamas terrorists carried out a barbaric attack against the population of Israel, killing over 1,400 Israelis and foreign nationals and kidnapping more than 200 hostages — from babies to Holocaust survivors — and dragging them off to Gaza. As President Joe Biden expressed, it was the “deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust.”

The world rightly recoiled at these atrocities. Across America, elected officials, community leaders and thousands of Americans have taken to the streets in the days since, marching in support of Israel and calling for the release of the hundreds of innocent hostages who hail from Israel, America and nations around the globe. Families of the kidnapped have been forced to wait in agonizing limbo, relying on a brutal terror group for information about their loved ones’ well-being.

And yet, Jews in Israel and around the world have also watched as others marched in support of Hamas’s ISIS-style brutality. In Sydney, Australia, people were filmed chanting, “Gas the Jews.” And in New York's Times Square, an anti-Israel protester was photographed holding up a swastika symbol. On Wednesday, an iconic Jewish eatery on New York's Upper East Side was vandalized with a swastika as well.

Less than a century after the Holocaust, the world risks forgetting the stakes: When extremists call for the death of Jews, when they march through cities praising those who kill us, we must take them at their word. The Hamas massacre shows we do not have the luxury of doing anything else....
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/american-jews-hamas-nazis-new-york-rcna120454

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We are serious when we say: 'Never Again' (Original Post) MyMission Oct 2023 OP
We WERE serious. elleng Oct 2023 #1
And yet MyMission Oct 2023 #2
Dara Horn book- "People Love Dead Jews." spike jones Oct 2023 #8
I wear my Star of David necklace with pride. And if someone doesn't like it, this 6'2", 245 lb Jew that can bench AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #3
I wear my star of David with pride too MyMission Oct 2023 #4
I'm from NY too, but from a hillbilly town upstate so I got it all the time. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #5
I wear Jewish things when I attend Gay Pride events. Behind the Aegis Oct 2023 #6
It's Not Difficult. kgray96057 Oct 2023 #7
Not just anti-Zionism this time. Valdosta Oct 2023 #9

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
2. And yet
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 12:09 AM
Oct 2023

People love dead Jews!
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We knew that after the initial horror many would find reasons to judge and blame, Israel and Jews everywhere. Antisemitic sentiment has been on the rise in recent years as we know. I'm pleased by the support Biden has demonstrated, but very displeased by the increase in antisemitic and anti Israel tropes.

Throughout our 5784 year history we've been blamed and displaced and attacked and slaughtered, and also taken in by various countries while being expelled by others.




AZLD4Candidate

(5,697 posts)
3. I wear my Star of David necklace with pride. And if someone doesn't like it, this 6'2", 245 lb Jew that can bench
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 01:14 AM
Oct 2023

345 lbs will show you the meaning of "never again."

I've dealt with it in four countries.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
4. I wear my star of David with pride too
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 03:47 AM
Oct 2023

In 2016 after tfg won, my friend was told by her parents to stop wearing hers.
My reaction was to get star of David earrings, they're more visible, and wear them in my second holes, always. Got a 2nd pair several years ago so I can switch or wear one of each. And I just ordered some Israeli flag pins!

I'm female,100 lbs lighter and 10 inches shorter than you, so I avoid confrontations but I won't hide! Sad and telling that you've had to deal with antisemitism in 4 countries. Growing up in NYC I was almost 30 before I experienced or recognized it. Often it's subtle, not blatant, but I've heard and read too many accounts over the years.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
6. I wear Jewish things when I attend Gay Pride events.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 05:47 AM
Oct 2023

I am sick and tired of people pretending that I can't be both Jewish and gay. Of course, I get much more shit from gay events and people then I have ever got from Jewish events where I was openly gay. There is also the "allies" that will gladly support my being gay, but my being Jewish....well...not so much.

kgray96057

(26 posts)
7. It's Not Difficult.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 01:54 PM
Oct 2023

When the US elected Barack Obama, the regressive right proclaimed it proof that prejudice and bigotry against race was a thing of the past.

And used that as partial justification for the still rolling attack on civil rights. The Southern states don't need voting oversight anymore, we don't need affirmative action, and so forth and so on.

Because racism against minorities ain't a thing anymore. If, heh heh heh, it ever really was.

It was. It is. It's expanding, with our official foot off of its neck.

Same thing with anti semitism. It's never going away. We cannot pretend, we cannot trust that it will. And in reaction to this nightmare, any dreams or illusions to the contrary, as we've learned with racial prejudice, should evaporate in the morning light.

This country, this world, is filled with bigots. With those who'd like to eradicate every Jew, wipe Israel off the map.

This cannot be allowed, cannot be taken lightly.

Does this make us anti Palestinian?

No. The Palestinians have the exact same right to survive and thrive as the Israelis. This makes us anti extremist, anti bigot, anti violence.

This is anti Hamas. They must be stopped. Not Palestinians. Not Jews, not Israel.

Valdosta

(246 posts)
9. Not just anti-Zionism this time.
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:47 AM
Oct 2023

And the demonstrations started before Israel had time to start retaliating.
The initial attack was the signal.

Looks like Hamas can coordinate globally.

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