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Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:24 PM Jul 2013

The phenomenal occurrences at the end of the month

Not only is Mars opposing Pluto and sending an explosive tsquare to Uranus in Aries
as I've written about, but the MEANING of the degree where Uranus in Aries will be
is translated by Dane Rudhyar, verbatim as:

PHASE 13 (ARIES 13°): AN UNEXPLODED BOMB REVEALS AN UNSUCCESSFUL SOCIAL PROTEST.

KEYNOTE: An immature evaluation of the possibility of transforming suddenly the status quo.

The symbol pictures the result of a particular attempt to resolve the conflict between two concept-feelings of order. Resolution by violence fails because the ego-power at this stage of the process of individualization is far too strong. "The State" thwarts attempts at popular revolution, because these are premature expressions of a consciousness which is not free, but can only react "wildly" to constraint and to a central ruling power. It is thus a symbol of immature refusal to conform, in the name of an over-idealistic desire for harmony and peace.

This is the third stage of the third five-fold sequence. A negative attempt at reconciling the spiritual ideal and the very earthly reality, denying the validity of the latter. It suggests ADOLESCENT FRUSTRATION.

Watch this one with TREMENDOUS interest. It surely will bring negativity such as wars, threats of nuclear power, turning points

with big$, but with the Grand Sextile, it should be overall very favorable.

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The phenomenal occurrences at the end of the month (Original Post) Ricochet21 Jul 2013 OP
Do you think astrology favors the existence of fate over the existence of free will? nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #1
In my opinion Ricochet21 Jul 2013 #2
Thanks for the toughtful reply. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #3
Very interesting response, thank you Ricochet21 Jul 2013 #4
That's a great response. Matariki Jul 2013 #12
Dear Rick, is an immature evaluation anything like a japple Jul 2013 #5
An immature evaluation is nothing like a premature ejaculation Ricochet21 Jul 2013 #8
Great discussions going on here. kimmerspixelated Jul 2013 #6
You can only apply it to yourself and feel it Ricochet21 Jul 2013 #7
It's coming.... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #9
Hi DeSwiss Sanity Claws Jul 2013 #10
Yes I am. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #13

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
2. In my opinion
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jul 2013

"free will" is an illusion. We must act as if there is, yes. In almost every holy book I've
ever read, the "enlightened one" says at the end, "I thought I had free will all of my 'life', but now I see that
it's all been planned."

A hard pill to swallow, yes.

It really doesn't matter, as I said, because you have to act as if you do.
As Dr. Wayne Dyer says, of which I agree, "You only have one moment of free will in your 'life', i.e., the
moment you surrender to God's will."

I think largely that free will makes us believe that we are more "important" than we are. Ego.

Astrology doesn't speak of fate, per se, but that could be a great argument of words. Astrology
paints a picture of where your life is unfolding archetypally, but not concretely. This gives rise
to Seth' major works regarding multiple universes and futures, etc. So difficulty to understand. I
believe that is why we are in the land of the quantum and holographic, it's all just showing us
the house of mirrors in which we live.

When it all comes down to it, I respect how almost everyone "believes in free will." I am not
interested at all in what I or anyone BELIEVES. I'm only interested in what one knows.
My biggest friction with FREE WILL is that it's based upon God over here, us over there. Two.
And I inherently KNOW that we are One.

Your answer to your own question?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
3. Thanks for the toughtful reply.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013
Your answer to your own question?


If everything is based on cause and effect, then free will can't exist.

If nothing is based on cause and effect, then free will can exist, but it doesn't do anyone any "good" or "harm."

If some things are based on cause and effect while other things are not, then free will can exist, and it can cause "good" and "harm," but there would be many problems with science and ethics that would be very difficult to figure out.

I assume one of the above is true, but I have no idea which one. They could all be very wrong.

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
4. Very interesting response, thank you
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jul 2013

I do not believe that anything causes another, it all just is. My thought and many others.
Why can't you have free will; bump into a vase, and the vase breaks?
Doing anyone good or harm is a total value judgement, right?
Leaving the toilet seat up is great for guys, bad for girls. lol

In "my" little world, we cannot have both "free will" and "not free will" unless you are
(Like Seth) describing one level of reality's truths vs another's.

Yes, I agree, we could have it all wrong! lol
Suggestion: watch yourself very closely the next time you make a decision....
note whether i't "You" making the decision or "it just happened"...

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
12. That's a great response.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jul 2013

I've always believed that there are *some* things that are fated but not all or even many. Even in astrological philosophically a person has a choice in how they react to influences.

Two people with the same aspect for instance may react in different ways, one person crushed by the aspect and the other able to use it positively. That's what I've seen anyway.

japple

(9,838 posts)
5. Dear Rick, is an immature evaluation anything like a
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jul 2013

premature ejaculation? Curious minds want to know!!

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
8. An immature evaluation is nothing like a premature ejaculation
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jul 2013

One is an anti-climactic period where said individual gives a flaccid response.
The other is simply a sexual dysfunction.

kimmerspixelated

(8,423 posts)
6. Great discussions going on here.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jul 2013

Hard to know where to start, to jump in, but first I must ask, (after massaging head because it was hurting reading: Unexploded bomb, adolescent frustration,
ego-power, revolution and react wildly to constraint, wow!), it's late and not much is sinking in...but what does this mean for the individual, let's say,
if possible?

I like should overall be very favorable ..

Ricochet21

(3,794 posts)
7. You can only apply it to yourself and feel it
Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jul 2013

A blind psychic, Elsie Wheeler, gave these meanings to Marc Edmund Jones, one the history's greatest
astrologers in 1927. She gave or read a meaning for each degree known as the Sabian Symbols.

Then, years later, the greatest astrologer (up until Tarnas) gave his lengthy translation.
I find it uncanny.

Explosions in the environment match explosions inwardly.

The likes of this massive Grand Sextile surrounding 2 Grand Trines and 2 Massive Tsquares is simply monumental.
Overall, I think it will be great, but shit will fly in the meantime. It's a huge turning point for the collective.

Sanity Claws

(21,852 posts)
10. Hi DeSwiss
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 11:11 AM
Jul 2013

Are you a fan of Sharon Taphorn? I recognize the middle post as one of her daily emails.

I listen to her show on BTR every week.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. Yes I am.
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jul 2013

I hangout a bit at the Galactic Free Press as well as Lightworkers.org both of whom who posts her stuff all the time. And of course her site.

- Her affirmations resonate with me.....



Namaste.

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