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Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:19 PM Oct 2013

An aging maverick, Charlotte native Episcopal bishop John Shelby Spong has no regrets...

This great man was my introduction to the church that I would decades later adopt as my own. Here's a short update on his life, and thoughts, today.



http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/17/4394687/an-aging-maverick-charlotte-native.html#.UmNEXpMo45s

MORRIS PLAINS, N.J. At 82, retired and enjoying life, Bishop John Shelby Spong doesn’t have to be the liberal enfant terrible whose pronouncements for gay rights and against traditional dogmas once scandalized Christendom.

Indeed, many of the views that once turned the Charlotte native and former Episcopal bishop of Newark into a lightning rod are now regarded as so matter-of-fact that they barely occasion much notice: Ordaining gay clergy and blessing same-sex marriages, for example, or having a female presiding bishop, Katharine Jefferts Schori, the first woman elected to lead a national church in the Anglican Communion.

On a range of issues, Spong can point to advancements that he helped push during a long and remarkable career – 20 years as a priest in North Carolina and Virginia and 24 years as a bishop in Newark. During that time, he became an unabashed provocateur in the fierce debates over sexuality that split many churches, including his own, both in the U.S. and abroad.

Through it all, Spong never retreated an inch. By the time he retired in 2000, his own diocese had 35 openly gay and lesbian clergy, and he also helped promote a new generation of church leaders who can carry his progressive torch: 11 clerics from his tenure are now bishops, more than from any other diocese, he says.




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TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
1. I used to see him on Politically Incorrect when it was on Comedy Channel
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:25 PM
Oct 2013

in the 90s. I always thought he was so rare in the way that he always talked about how people should accept people rather than trying to use God to scare people.....

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
3. As strongly anti-theism as Maher is, I find it intriguing that he called Spong his
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:32 PM
Oct 2013

"favorite theologian". He truly is a rare man.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. I love him! I have met him on many occasions and he is just a wonderful person.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:25 PM
Oct 2013

He really was did stand up for LGBT folk in the church and outside of the church.

I don't agree with all his views but he is a wonderful man full with the Holy Spirit.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
4. I've never met him but admired him for many, many years....
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:34 PM
Oct 2013

And I don't agree with much of anyone 100% of the time. Spong probably comes close.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
5. I've read and greatly enjoyed some of his books.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:52 PM
Oct 2013

People like him are why religion per se is not on the list of things I hate unconditionally.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
7. Like "Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism"?
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:51 AM
Oct 2013

I bought it about twenty years ago after watching him debate... I think it was Wm. F. Buckley... on tv.

Good stuff. Might be around here still somewhere. But I'll probably never know.



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