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Related: About this forumA New Problem in Ireland: Where to Find a Non-Catholic School?
DUBLINSarah Lennons son Ethan is just 7 weeks old, and shes already stressing out about his applications for primary schools. A lapsed Catholic, she hopes to land him a spot at a sought-after multi-denominational school in suburban Dublinone of few alternatives to the Church-run schools in her neighborhood.
Its quite urgent to have our name down early and have the Catholic school here as a back up, Lennon said. But the Catholic school may not admit our son, unless we have his form in early, because he wont be baptized.
Lennon is among a growing number of Irish parents who no longer identify with the Catholic Church and struggle to find schools that dont clash with their convictions. In Irelandonce considered the most Catholic country in the worldthe Catholic Church runs more than 90 percent of all public schools. Other religious groups operate another 6 percent. But Irelands religiosity has waned in recent years, amid changing demographics, rising secularism and reports of Church sexual abuse and cover-ups.
Weekly church attendance among Irish Catholics dropped from more than 90 percent to 30 percent in the past four decades. Those in Ireland who identify as religious plummeted from 69 percent in 2005 to just 47 percent last year, according to a WIN-Gallup International poll. And the number of people who chose no religion in the last census soared, making non-believers the second largest group in the nation.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/a-new-problem-in-ireland-where-to-find-a-non-catholic-school/280225/
Its quite urgent to have our name down early and have the Catholic school here as a back up, Lennon said. But the Catholic school may not admit our son, unless we have his form in early, because he wont be baptized.
Lennon is among a growing number of Irish parents who no longer identify with the Catholic Church and struggle to find schools that dont clash with their convictions. In Irelandonce considered the most Catholic country in the worldthe Catholic Church runs more than 90 percent of all public schools. Other religious groups operate another 6 percent. But Irelands religiosity has waned in recent years, amid changing demographics, rising secularism and reports of Church sexual abuse and cover-ups.
Weekly church attendance among Irish Catholics dropped from more than 90 percent to 30 percent in the past four decades. Those in Ireland who identify as religious plummeted from 69 percent in 2005 to just 47 percent last year, according to a WIN-Gallup International poll. And the number of people who chose no religion in the last census soared, making non-believers the second largest group in the nation.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/a-new-problem-in-ireland-where-to-find-a-non-catholic-school/280225/
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A New Problem in Ireland: Where to Find a Non-Catholic School? (Original Post)
SecularMotion
Oct 2013
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MADem
(135,425 posts)1. The Catholic Church wants to get out of the Education Business in Ireland, at least to some extent..
They don't want to go where they're not wanted:
Even Catholic leaders acknowledge the problem. Dublins Archbishop Diarmuid Martin has been pushing for more Catholic schools to be handed over to other groups.
I am the legal owner of about 85 percent of all elementary schools in this diocese, and I have been saying for some time that this does not reflect the realitiesand that we have to move forward, Martin said.
Working towards Martins goal, Irelands Education Minister Ruairi Quinn established an unprecedented Forum on Patronage and Pluralism in 2011, which was aimed at gauging parental demand for new types of schools and recommending changes to accommodate religious diversity.
School watchers see these efforts as a watershed moment in Irish education, even if their impact remains to be seen.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/a-new-problem-in-ireland-where-to-find-a-non-catholic-school/280225/I am the legal owner of about 85 percent of all elementary schools in this diocese, and I have been saying for some time that this does not reflect the realitiesand that we have to move forward, Martin said.
Working towards Martins goal, Irelands Education Minister Ruairi Quinn established an unprecedented Forum on Patronage and Pluralism in 2011, which was aimed at gauging parental demand for new types of schools and recommending changes to accommodate religious diversity.
School watchers see these efforts as a watershed moment in Irish education, even if their impact remains to be seen.
rug
(82,333 posts)2. Belfast.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)3. They need to change this to more accurately reflect the population
and the needs of those families that do not consider themselves catholic.
It looks like they are taking the right steps to do so.