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Related: About this forumAbout Those Irreligious New Englanders
Call it the story that wont die. A 2012 Gallup Poll purported to reveal that New Englanders are the least religious of all Americans, with Vermonters leading the non-churched pack and Bay Staters checking in at number four.
This data has been endlessly recycled, including in a recent Boston Globe column. Its also been red meat for conservative evangelicals, who have flooded talk shows, editorial pages and the blogosphere with comments suggesting that New England is Sodom and the West Coast is Gomorrah. Alas, it has also provoked counter-responses from the unchurched that fall considerably short of enlightened skepticism.
Its childs play to cast doubt on the data. As the 2012 election results proved, Gallup is many years removed from conducting truly scientific polling. Second, Gallup measured a single criterion: the percentage of each states residents that attend religious services in a given week. There is no way of knowing from the Gallup data whether the same individuals attend regularly or randomly, not can we infer anything about what attendees believe or practice.
To paraphrase a youth minister friend, the idea that attending services makes you religious is like spending time in a garage and thinking youre a car. Gallup numbers are in need of serious parsing, the likes of which is done each year by the Pew Research Center.
http://www.valleyadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=17184
This data has been endlessly recycled, including in a recent Boston Globe column. Its also been red meat for conservative evangelicals, who have flooded talk shows, editorial pages and the blogosphere with comments suggesting that New England is Sodom and the West Coast is Gomorrah. Alas, it has also provoked counter-responses from the unchurched that fall considerably short of enlightened skepticism.
Its childs play to cast doubt on the data. As the 2012 election results proved, Gallup is many years removed from conducting truly scientific polling. Second, Gallup measured a single criterion: the percentage of each states residents that attend religious services in a given week. There is no way of knowing from the Gallup data whether the same individuals attend regularly or randomly, not can we infer anything about what attendees believe or practice.
To paraphrase a youth minister friend, the idea that attending services makes you religious is like spending time in a garage and thinking youre a car. Gallup numbers are in need of serious parsing, the likes of which is done each year by the Pew Research Center.
http://www.valleyadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=17184
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About Those Irreligious New Englanders (Original Post)
SecularMotion
Sep 2013
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kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)1. Suck on it, fundies. THIS is what freedom of conscience looks like.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)2. There is something else not taken into account
New Englanders don't generally preach or wear their religion on their sleeves, so to speak. Religion is a private thing here in relation to other places in the country. I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I was asked what religion I was... except in a religious setting.
My point is that people here just might not want to say.
Also, New England is very Catholic and frankly alot of Catholics here no longer regularly go to Mass, but still believe. The molestation issues in the church had a massive effect here.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)3. "molestation issues in the church had a massive effect here."
To say the very least.
Catholics here can be very nice in addition to being reserved and lapsed.
What ever happened to Voice of the Faithful?
cbayer
(146,218 posts)4. Degree of religiosity is positively correlated with degree of poverty.
That's the biggest difference between New England and the south, imo.