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rug

(82,333 posts)
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:16 PM Jul 2013

Is Religion Good For Your Cat And Dog?

July 1, 2013

A new research project at Oxford will examine whether animals benefit or suffer thanks to religion.

Inspired by Baptist Preacher Charles Spurgeon’s claim that a person cannot be a true Christian if his dog or cat is not the better off for it, the Centre will explore whether religious traditions are animal-friendly. The questions to be addressed include whether religious people and religious institutions benefit animals? Are they more or less likely to be respectful to animals – either those kept as companions or those used for other human purposes?

The project is being organised by the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics. It will be multidisciplinary, multifaith, and draw in not only theologians and religious thinkers, but also other academics including social scientists, psychologists, historians, and criminologists. “We want to know whether religion makes any difference for animals”, says Oxford theologian, Professor Andrew Linzey, who is Director of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics. “We often hear of how religion is detrimental to human rights, but is it also detrimental to animal protection?”

The first stage of the project will culminate in a Summer School on Religion and Animal Protection at St Stephen’s House, Oxford, from 21-23rd July 2014. St Stephen’s is an Anglican Theological College and a Hall of the University of Oxford.

http://pressreleases.religionnews.com/2013/07/01/is-religion-good-for-your-cat-and-dof/

http://www.oxfordanimalethics.com/

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Is Religion Good For Your Cat And Dog? (Original Post) rug Jul 2013 OP
My cat certainly benefitted from knowing she was God arcane1 Jul 2013 #1
They do have that air. rug Jul 2013 #2
lol. so does mine. DesertFlower Jul 2013 #3
I guess I'm a pantheist, then. Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #4
Yes! silverweb Jul 2013 #12
My smallest kitteh okasha Jul 2013 #19
Traditional Christianity holds that animals don't have souls. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #5
Um... NV Whino Jul 2013 #6
Did he cut off his own ear in a fit of artistic ecstasy? cbayer Jul 2013 #8
I think she was awakened from a nap NV Whino Jul 2013 #14
Really? Is this really a good use of resources? cbayer Jul 2013 #7
I'm not convinced that it's all that good for people, either. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2013 #9
I would say no, overall Lordquinton Jul 2013 #10
As long as I don't have to take Cranky Nigel to confession, I'm happy catbyte Jul 2013 #11
DUZY! Hestia Jul 2013 #13
Given the ancient penchant for animal sacrifice LostOne4Ever Jul 2013 #15
Pithing? rug Jul 2013 #16
Pithing LostOne4Ever Jul 2013 #17
Well, good for the animal, I guess. rug Jul 2013 #18
Well, if I had to get up to go to Church on Sunday, the cats would get dislodged from the bed... brooklynite Jul 2013 #20

okasha

(11,573 posts)
19. My smallest kitteh
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:07 PM
Jul 2013

regards herself as an avatar of Bastet when in a good mood. When she's irritated, she turns very convincingly into Lady Sekhmet and can swat her 18 lb. brother into abject submission.

Daily offerings of Fancy Feast gain her divine favor.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
5. Traditional Christianity holds that animals don't have souls.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jul 2013

That belief makes it easier to mistreat and kill them.

I think that if people have souls, so do animals.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. Really? Is this really a good use of resources?
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jul 2013

Some religions worship and protect certain animals. Some religions see them as soulless and only on earth for human benefit. Others feel that they have been entrusted with caring for the earth and all animals.

And then there is just the general goodness or badness of individuals when it comes to animals.

Also, what "benefits" an animal. Clearly kicking the dog does not benefit the dog, but is spending your life savings on kidney dialysis for the cat a benefit?

While this could make for a lively and interesting discussion, I don't think any valid conclusions are likely to be drawn for this proposed research.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
10. I would say no, overall
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 06:56 PM
Jul 2013

Abrahamic religions certainly not, as they are regarded as property for us to do with as we wish. Eastern religions which are big on vegetarianism are not good for cats, as they are carnivores and will be severely undernourished and sick if tried to be held to a veg diet.

It mostly comes down to the people caring for the animals.

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
11. As long as I don't have to take Cranky Nigel to confession, I'm happy
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

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LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
15. Given the ancient penchant for animal sacrifice
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:09 PM
Jul 2013

And the controversy over Kosher foods, I would say they suffer quite a bit from some religions. But as the article points out that they claim the slaughter method is as humane as possible.

But the practice still sounds cruel to me. Especially if combined with shackling and hoisting. In biology class we used to pith frogs. I think that would be a better way to go about it, but apparently there are health issues associated with it.

I just don't like it.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
17. Pithing
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:34 PM
Jul 2013

Pithing is putting a needle through the orbit of the skull into the brainstem of an animal and instantly killing it. It sounds harsh but what it does is instantly makes the animal brain dead before, and so that they are unable to feel pain.


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In animal physiology this was the way we would dissect a frog so that their organs, like the heart, kept on functioning.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
18. Well, good for the animal, I guess.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 09:36 PM
Jul 2013

But now I have visions of brain dead twitching cadavers. Staring at me.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
20. Well, if I had to get up to go to Church on Sunday, the cats would get dislodged from the bed...
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jul 2013

...so I'll say "no".

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