The Religious Right Empire Strikes Back: Fundamentalists Target Churches For 2014 Elections

[Adsos Letter]

Source:
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
Wall of Separation
by Simon Brown
Mar 14, 2013

We’re just a few months removed from the 2012 elections, and the Religious Right is already hard at work trying to lure churches into partisan politics for the 2014 elections.

This week, Mat Staver’s Liberty Counsel, which is affiliated with Jerry Falwell Jr.’s Liberty University, said it is gearing up to help fundamentalists take “dominion” over the United States and make us a “Christian nation.”

In a news release on its website, Liberty Counsel said it is merging with the Florida Faith and Works Coalition. That’s pretty scary, because the Faith and Works Coalition says on its website that “historically, America was established as a Christian nation and its policies were based on biblical principles. The guardian of those biblical principles has always been His church. And His church, in recent history, has passively abdicated its guardianship responsibility.”

That paints a pretty clear picture of the organization’s intent, which was reaffirmed in a statement from Art Ally, founder and head of the Faith & Works Coalition.

https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/the-religious-right-empire-strikes-back-fundamentalists-target-churches-for

Eternal vigilance, my friends, eternal vigilance...

[okasha]

1. It's time to start challenging

some 501c3s.

[SpartanDem]

3. For what?

As long they're not endorsing candidates it's legal, "organizing pastor briefings and voter registration drives across the country" Nothing illegal about this. Now before you say it should be, let me remind you this works both ways you see this a lot out of heavily black denominations. I don't need tell who they vote for, so let's not be so quick to kill one of our best turnout generators.

[Lordquinton]

4. I still agree with the other poster

The churches you speak of are still heavily conservative, and use the pulpit to speak out against many liberal causes. In CA churches were responsible for the passage of Prop 8 which attempted to make gay marriage against the state constitution. Minorities vote with us on issues that deal with minorities, because they are being discriminated against, but remove that plank, and they are still ultra conservative churches. If a church gets involved in politics, it is violating the 1st amendment (in short).

Of course I think that special exemption for churches is a violation of the 1st, and they should all pay their fair share.

[SpartanDem]

6. Way to sterotype

it may come as shock but not all or the majority black churches are ultra conservative

[Lordquinton]

7. No, I remember quite clearly that many churches, regardless of race were against prop h8

and as we were talking about black churches in specific, then I'm not stereotyping, just pointing out that while they voted primarily for Obama, they also heavily come out against other causes.

Do you have a response to that? or more Ad Homs? Churches should not get a pass regardless of whose side they are on, because the other side gets way more money than we do, and if they get to hide their finances, they always will.

[SpartanDem]

8. Yes you are sterotyping

The disparity was even greater among religious groups, broken down along racial lines. White evangelical Christians opposed same-sex marriage by nearly 3 to 1. But every non-evangelical group — other white Protestants, white Catholics, Hispanic Catholics, African American non-evangelicals and Jewish voters — expressed support for such unions by double-digit margins.

Meanwhile, African American voters who described themselves as evangelical or born again were narrowly divided, with 45 percent saying their state should recognize same-sex marriage and 47 percent saying it should not.

.http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/opposition-to-same-sex-marriage-narrow-and-concentrated-study-finds/2013/03/06/99bfc3cc-8688-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394_story.html

Black clergy ran ads in Maryland in support of their marriage equality vote. As to the money they've always had more money.

[Lordquinton]

9. We both are, actually

or neither of us are because you're talking about MD, and I'm talking about Califorina.

[asjr]

2. Sometimes I think our ancestors wasted their money and time

on the Mayflower. Looks as if religion is going to be thrust upon us after all.

[backscatter712]

5. The Puritans did not believe in freedom of religion.

They believed in freedom of their religion

They fled England because the rest of the population thought they were batshit. And they were right!

The Puritans came here so they could inflict their religion on people without interference. They hanged people for blasphemy and witchcraft, they demanded you pray their way.

And their descendants still try to inflict their batshit on the rest of us.