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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:54 PM Nov 2012

Tell the Catholic bishops to lay off Obama

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2518/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=11895

This year the Catholic bishops joined forces with the far right to launch a vicious campaign against President Obama and against marriage equality. They spent millions of dollars, demonized their opponents, and even threatened laypeople with eternal damnation if they voted Democratic.

And now what do the bishops have to show for it? Most Catholics voted for President Obama, marriage equality is law in three additional states, and the bishops have become unpopular and polarizing political figures.

Now, with polls showing that most Catholics want the church to focus more on social justice and serving the poor, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is meeting in Baltimore next week to plan their next steps.

We want to deliver a huge petition calling on the bishops to drop their right-wing political crusade and get back to doing God's work, especially caring for the most vulnerable people in our society. Join us in sending this message to the Catholic Bishops:

The election results prove that the Catholic faithful don't want any part of your right-wing political crusades. Please reconsider your priorities and refocus your attention on those whom Jesus called "the least of these.
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Tell the Catholic bishops to lay off Obama (Original Post) eridani Nov 2012 OP
The only thing the Catholic church listens to is people taking Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #1
Not only did most Catholics vote for President Obama thelordofhell Nov 2012 #2
While white Catholics pulled back on support for Obama, hispanic catholics cbayer Nov 2012 #12
For many Americans, the bravest thing they ever do in their entire lives is leaving the Catholic dimbear Nov 2012 #3
Even as an ex-Catholic myself, I have to give props to those who decide to stay and fight n/t eridani Nov 2012 #4
I'm catholic and in the Bay Area, Bishops try to stay out of politics. The operative word, here, is demosincebirth Nov 2012 #6
Welcome to the newest political reality: dimbear Nov 2012 #8
The bravest thing? rug Nov 2012 #5
So you don't know anyone edhopper Nov 2012 #13
For someone, particularly someone who doesn't believe in it, to suggest to people rug Nov 2012 #14
Interesting that edhopper Nov 2012 #15
I have the same reaction to people who suggest I try the fish. rug Nov 2012 #16
oookkkaayyy edhopper Nov 2012 #17
Religion is not a menu. rug Nov 2012 #18
Are you saying you edhopper Nov 2012 #19
No. I'm saying it's not fungible. rug Nov 2012 #20
So edhopper Nov 2012 #21
As hard as it is to leave anything that's been a part of you. rug Nov 2012 #22
The bravest thing? I'd rank it as less brave than some of the intermediate college classes I took. ButterflyBlood Nov 2012 #7
Your family sound like really good people. You are one of the luckier recoverers. dimbear Nov 2012 #9
My family isn't even fully Catholic ButterflyBlood Nov 2012 #10
Done. Thanks once again, eridani, for bringing the petition link here. cbayer Nov 2012 #11
Catholics only went for Obama (by a much decreased margin) because of Latinos dmallind Nov 2012 #23

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
1. The only thing the Catholic church listens to is people taking
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:00 AM
Nov 2012

their bodies and dollars someplace else, mostly the dollars

They have spent too much time and effert to gather their power and they will not give it up without a fight

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
2. Not only did most Catholics vote for President Obama
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:03 AM
Nov 2012

Thousands of republican Catholics refused to vote at all because Romney is a Mormon

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
12. While white Catholics pulled back on support for Obama, hispanic catholics
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:31 AM
Nov 2012

voted overwhelming for him (about 72%). This is a fact they are highly unlikely to ignore.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
3. For many Americans, the bravest thing they ever do in their entire lives is leaving the Catholic
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:06 AM
Nov 2012

church. It's a big change, but it opens up a whole new and better world.

Hug an ex-Catholic today.




demosincebirth

(12,541 posts)
6. I'm catholic and in the Bay Area, Bishops try to stay out of politics. The operative word, here, is
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:38 AM
Nov 2012

"try." We don't have any homilies about politics. Maybe different other places.

edhopper

(33,594 posts)
13. So you don't know anyone
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:35 AM
Nov 2012

whose whole family is Catholic and turns away from the Church.
No repercussions there, huh?
Talk about condescension and belittling.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
14. For someone, particularly someone who doesn't believe in it, to suggest to people
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:56 PM
Nov 2012

what and where they should believe is both condescending and ignorant of the beliefs.

It's still bullshit.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
20. No. I'm saying it's not fungible.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:24 PM
Nov 2012

Anyone who says it is doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
22. As hard as it is to leave anything that's been a part of you.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

It is not, however, as hard as a divorce or losing a child.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
7. The bravest thing? I'd rank it as less brave than some of the intermediate college classes I took.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:02 AM
Nov 2012

I realized in my teens that I was not in any way a Catholic and couldn't stand their views, either social or theological, so I quite associating with them and didn't identify myself as Catholic. Once I moved out of the house I quit attending Mass, and haven't for 10 years since. It didn't negatively affect my life in any way. I actually got into a different church about a year ago so I didn't even have to cease being a Christian.

A big change? Moving into a different apartment in the same neighborhood would be a bigger change for me.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
9. Your family sound like really good people. You are one of the luckier recoverers.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:17 AM
Nov 2012

No support group needed here, but they are available to others who haven't been so fortunate.



ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
10. My family isn't even fully Catholic
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:40 AM
Nov 2012

My dad isn't and his whole side of the family is Lutheran. That's what I identified as in college and right past that (the fact that even my mom was OK with going to the Lutheran church near us instead of the Catholic one in high school even if my dad didn't [which he rarely did] and thus we ended up going to that more frequently played a role no doubt.) And on her side only about half are Catholic. My mom sponsored my cousin for confirmation last year...in a Lutheran church. Her niece was being raised there by her raised Catholic sister. Kind of hard for changing denominations to be controversial in a family with that type of makeup.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
23. Catholics only went for Obama (by a much decreased margin) because of Latinos
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 05:20 PM
Nov 2012

White Catholics expressed their typical docility to those bishops you mention by voting for Romney by a 17% margin. Even Hispanic Catholics went Obama by a lesser margin than Hispanics as as a whole, presenting strong evidence that their support was due more to ethnicity than religion.

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