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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:39 AM Sep 2012

Judge quotes bible in decision to deny a transgender woman a name change

Interesting logic...

“Here, petitioner has not even had the surgery by which his sex purports to be changed. Thus, based on the foregoing and the DNA evidence, a sex change cannot make a man a woman or a woman a man all of which, the Court finds is sufficient in and of itself to deny petitioner's request for a name change,” Graves wrote.

“To grant a name change in this case would be to assist that which is fraudulent,” Graves wrote. “It is notable that Genesis 1:27-28 states: ‘So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth ...' The DNA code shows God meant for them to stay male and female.”

Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-judge-refuses-to-let-men-planning-sex-change-operations-have-feminine-names/article/3710063#ixzz275FrY0Hi
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Judge quotes bible in decision to deny a transgender woman a name change (Original Post) pokerfan Sep 2012 OP
"The DNA code shows God meant for them to stay male and female." Live and Learn Sep 2012 #1
Really? A judge used the bible to decide a case? And WHY is he still on the bench? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #2
It's an Oklahoma thing, I guess (nt) pokerfan Sep 2012 #4
this judge should be thrown off the bench and fined $15 million Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #3
Unfortunately, his is an elected position struggle4progress Sep 2012 #5
Was't John Wayne's original given name Marion? okasha Sep 2012 #6
He's done this in two separate cases now. And he's out of sync with the rest cbayer Sep 2012 #7
He also has no clue okasha Sep 2012 #8
Agree. His DNA argument is just BS. cbayer Sep 2012 #9
Gospel of Thomas 114 dimbear Sep 2012 #10

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
1. "The DNA code shows God meant for them to stay male and female."
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 02:43 AM
Sep 2012

Wtf? Not surprised to find out it was in Oklahoma but still, wtf?

okasha

(11,573 posts)
6. Was't John Wayne's original given name Marion?
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:55 PM
Sep 2012

Aren't there an awful lot of little girls with names like Madison and Meredith, both male names? (At least the spate of TIffanys and Kimberlys seems to have abated.) What about all the little Hispanic boys with names like Jose Maria? Anne de Montmorency was Constable of France under Henri II and was indisputably male. There's a long, long history of cross-gender names. Hizzoner is an idiot.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
7. He's done this in two separate cases now. And he's out of sync with the rest
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

of the judges in that district.

He should be forced to recuse himself in these cases. There is no reason that someone making this request should have their fate be the luck of the draw.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
8. He also has no clue
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:31 PM
Sep 2012

that trangender people are trying to get back to their inherent gender, not change it.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
10. Gospel of Thomas 114
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven.

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