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rug
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LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Christadelphians state that their beliefs are based completely on the Bible, and they accept no other texts as inspired by God.
Unitarian Universalists believe spiritual wisdom comes from many sources including the Bible, Koran, Buddhist and Hindu texts, Native American teachings and many more sources.
Christadelphians believe that God is the creator of all things and the father of true believers,and is a separate being from his son, Jesus Christ, and that the Holy Spirit is the power of God used in creation and for salvation.
While Unitarians are free to consider themselves Christians, Buddhists, Pagans, Jews etc., there is no requirement of belief in a god, goddess or any other supreme being. Many UUs are atheists or secular humanists.
Christadelphians believe that Jesus is the promised Jewish Messiah.
There is no such requirement to believe this among Unitarian-Universalists.
Christadelphians believe that people are separated from God because of their sins, but can be reconciled to him by becoming disciples of Jesus Christ.
There is no such belief requirement among Unitarian Universalists.
My understanding, (I am not a religious scholar, but have been a UU for 30 years) is that at its simplest, Unitarianism originally meant belief in a single divine being, God, instead of believing in a Trinity of God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. Universalism at its core means a belief in universal salvation (unlike religions that say if you're not one of them, you're going to hell, etc). The Unitarian and Universalist churches in the U.S. merged in 1962.
rug
(82,333 posts)That was one of the original beliefs of what has become UU, which apparently no longer has that, or any other required belief.
The Christadelphians are often referred to as "Biblical Unitarians".
There is a nomenclature problem. Technically, Christadelphians are unitarian while Unitarians are not.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)"Christadelphians believe that God is the creator of all things and the father of true believers,and is a separate being from his son, Jesus Christ, and that the Holy Spirit is the power of God used in creation and for salvation. "
rug
(82,333 posts)"We believe that Jesus is a man, who was tried and tempted as we are, yet who resisted sin even till death. Three days later, the only true God, the Father raised him to eternal life, after which Christ ascended to his Father's side to await the appointed time of his return."
http://www.christadelphia.org/belief.htm
In that way they're similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses, early Unitarians such as Joseph Priestley, and the Arians of the fourth century.
The classic Trinitarian formula is found in the Nicene Creed, where it is asserted that there are three persons in one God, equal and the same.
I don't know about you but I find the history and development of religions fascinating.
RegieRocker
(4,226 posts)That would be like going to the Pope and his cardinals with proof that God didn't exist and expecting them to say "oh yes, you're right their is no God". Sure.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)RegieRocker
(4,226 posts)Some catholics not all. Some scientists believe in God not all.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)RegieRocker
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JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Philly gets enough of a bad wrap for hitting Santa with snow balls ... and now we have to have these nitwits using the "delphians" part of our name ... geeeze.
I hate this almost as much as I hate Joe the Plumber (not a real Joe), Palin referring to "Joe 6-pak", Joe Scarborough, and Joe Lieberman, making the rest of the "Joe world" look bad.
Ugh!
rug
(82,333 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)He was a scientist before he took a theological turn.
"During the 1730s, Swedenborg undertook many studies of anatomy and physiology. He had the first anticipation, as far as known, of the neuron concept[48] It was not till a century later that science recognized the full significance of the nerve cell. He also had prescient ideas about the cerebral cortex, the hierarchical organization of the nervous system, the localization of the cerebrospinal fluid, the functions of the pituitary gland, the perivascular spaces, the foramen of Magendie, the idea of somatotopic organization, and the association of frontal brain regions with the intellect. In some cases his conclusions have been experimentally verified in modern times."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Swedenborg
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)The leader of the fan club need not be alive.
rug
(82,333 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)I suppose that there might be a group somewhere, who meets every other Tuesday night, and they have a set of dogmatic activities that they repeat ... but I have not heard of them.
Do you know when they meet?
rug
(82,333 posts)I'm sure you've met here.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)like a religious following. Perhaps you could substantiate your claim by providing links?
Otherwise I'm forced to conclude you are making it up just to bait and insult.
rug
(82,333 posts)I told him where he can meet some. Why don't you pm him?
trotsky
(49,533 posts)mr blur
(7,753 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)It's apt.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:14 AM - Edit history (1)
The Pledge of Allegiance, sang America the Beautiful, which I always mangled for some reason. It was followed by a performance of The Lord's Prayer as a young lady was proud to display her skill at the piano as her thin voice sang it for us, while we bowed their heads with eyes closed. It was more out of respect to her since it meant a great deal to her.Those who didn't believe or didn't want to pray just looked around at the rest of us Heathens, Doubting Thomases and Thomasinas. I took a peek most days, too. No problem there.
They never acknowledged Creationism in the school because that was for the home and church, not the public school paid for with tax dollars by everyone, both those who believed and didn't believe religion. We had kids whose families and theirs were open atheists, no hassle whosoever, like choosing sports teams. We knew we didn't have to agree on every damn thing in the world.
When the USSC stopped the prayers, we dropped the Lord's Prayer, but didn't quit doing Christmas and Easter holidays. Hey, gifts and candy for the kids, don't be a Scrooge. Any chance to party!
We danced around the pagan Maypole every spring and celebrated Fall Harvest time and Halloween at school. Really, it was no big deal. We were grateful when Jewish people stood in to do work at stores on Christmas and Easter and respected their holidays, although they weren't official.
Since then schools in the name of diversity don't call the holidays by those old terms, they're just spring and winter breaks. I hope eventually we'll go back to some live and let live. But everything is ideological and political, with right wing loons forcing their religion down everyone's throat, thinking much too much about details.
When I was in public school we had open gays and lesbians in our classes and in our lives. We didn't have to be told to treat them like brothers and sisters and equal to everyone else.
This country has gone frigging medieval, it's sad. People that are forcing crap on others need to step away from Glenn Beck and the merchants of hate and look around. We all need each other.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)EVOLUTION IS LIFE
