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Related: About this forumMost New Yorkers are biased against atheists and born-agains in politics, poll finds
The great majority of New York City voters say they are not prejudiced, but more New Yorkers are less likely to vote for an atheist or born-again Christian than a Muslim or a Mormon, according to the Quinnipiac University poll.
ByTina Moore / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 6:00 AM
Updated: Wednesday, August 15, 2012, 6:00 AM
Most New Yorkers are biased against atheists and born-agains in politics, a poll released Wednesday found.
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Some 30% of voters reported they would be less likely to vote for an atheist and 27% said they would be less likely to vote for a born-again Christian, the poll found. In each case, 61% of voters say the religious positions would not affect their vote.
A total of 24% said they were less likely to vote for a Mormon, while 70% answered that it wouldn't matter. On the question of a Muslim, 19% said they were less likely to vote for a Muslim while 76% said it wouldn't matter.
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"In our measure of prejudice, only the two ends of the religious spectrum - atheists and born-again Christians - draw significant negatives," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-yorkers-biased-atheists-born-agains-politics-poll-finds-article-1.1136540
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)It's not just allegience to a belief system with many of them, but a part of their cultural identity. Same goes for a lot of Jewish folks here, too.
rug
(82,333 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)And it's a simple yes or no answer, rug. No deflection by "snappy" retort.
rug
(82,333 posts)And New Yorkers are particularly adept at detecting it.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)...thus warranting New Yorkers (with their Spidey-Sense-like ability to detect bullshit) to be less likely to vote for them. Thank you rug for making your position clear to us all now.
rug
(82,333 posts)Did you not read "some"? Granted, it shares three letters with "more" but they are truly different.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)eqfan592
(5,963 posts)*from the deep, inner portions of rugs mind*
rug
(82,333 posts)This is only 31 seconds.
eqfan592
(5,963 posts)Well that's my 4 reply limit to a sub thread involving you, rug. See ya.
rug
(82,333 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)don't engage in bullshit.
I guess you don't grasp NYC politics.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)you bet your ass I do.
The name Rudy Giuliani comes to mind when I think of a giant Catholic bullshitting asshole.
rug
(82,333 posts)Catholic is the least of his bullshit.
Now, were you born there?
But perhaps I misread your post. Your response seemed to imply that the reason New Yorkers turn against Atheist and Born Agains is because they, in particular, have a tendency to bullshit. As opposed to the Catholics and Jews that regularly get elected. Thus my reply.
Perhaps you meant that besides the info in this article, New Yorkers ALSO have a small tolerance for bullshit. Not linking the groups in the article to excessive bullshit.
Perhaps you could clear that up?
rug
(82,333 posts)I was born in Manhattan and lived there until they tore the buildings down for a 40 story high rise.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)It is easy to see the bullshit in fundamentalists, who are at one extreme.
For better or worse, to the extent that atheism is thought of at all, most of the publicity about in it NY revolved around the Holland Tunnel billboards, the WTC cross, the "Seven In Heaven" street name change, and the like. My gut tells me the common reaction is "Who cares?" And if that is in fact the basis for answering, the results do not surprise me, nor do I think it exhibits any particular bias against atheists.
It's too bad because NYC has a long history of free thinking extending further back beyond the Society for Ethical Culture on CPW, through the present.
I may be wrong but that's how these results strike me.
I really think it is the Ultra religious. The Ultra Orthodox Jews and Catholics. The very religious in the Black community and so forth that answered that way.
I think we would need to see a demographic breakdown to really understand this survey.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)The 30% anti-atheists are probably very religious, the anti-born agains are probably very liberal nonreligious, who associate born agains with fundementalists.
There are people even here in NYC who won't vote for Obama because he is black.
rug
(82,333 posts)edhopper
(33,615 posts)on living an working here for over 25 years.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)30% and 24% are not "most" and these numbers are better than those generated by national surveys.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)though, according to the article, it hasn't been updated since 6am EDT when it was published.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)we'd need rug to say if he could have made a mistake, or if it read that at first.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I wasn't accusing him of intentionally altering the headline, but wondered if the daily news staff had done it, which would not surprise me at all.
rug
(82,333 posts)I suspect a copy editor did the same math you did.
rug
(82,333 posts)I still don't buy the headline myself. There are other reasons not to vote other than bias. They may find judgment to be lacking, for one thing.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I would guess that people find extremes the most objectionable and see fundamentalism and atheism as the extremes.
My experience of NYC is that they paid that much attention to religion when it came to voting, unless it was an opportunity to vote for someone they more closely identified with.