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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 04:55 PM Jun 2012

"Swastika Rehabilitation Day" Went About As Well As You'd Expect

http://gothamist.com/2012/06/24/swastika_rehabilitation_day_went_ab.php



via Corey Kilgannon's Twitter

Yesterday was World Swastika Rehabilitation Day, an occasion to try "to explain the true meaning of the symbol,” according to Thomas Kaenzig, a member of the International Raelian Movement and the organizer of the event. Oh, did you not know this was happening? Then you must not have looked up, since a plane flew across Manhattan, across the Jersey Shore and across Long Beach Island with a banner displaying the word "Swastika" along with the group's insignia (a swastika intertwined with a Star of David). As you can imagine, people were confused and less than enthusiastic.


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dimbear

(6,271 posts)
2. There are some beautiful books, mostly from the 1920s-1930s that are a bit jarring.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jun 2012

Indian good luck symbol meets bad fate.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. I don't see how that could have possibly gone amiss!
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

An obscure Alien-revering religion, flying a banner with the Swastika superimposed over the Star of David?

Seems like a case of "didn't think this through" to me.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
13. As the son of a WWII veteran,...
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jun 2012

...the stepson of a Jewish woman (and half brother of 2 Jewsih siblings) and the nephew of a Treblinka survivor, I find the designation of the swastika as "just a symbol" as a rather tin-eared comment. The vast majority of people would find this to be much more of a symbol. The notion of "rehabilitating" it is a completely demented notion.

PLEASE put a little more thought in before typing.

PEACE!

 

daaron

(763 posts)
14. My post was too short and unclear. I believe you misunderstood.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:06 PM
Jun 2012

I'm saying the swastika and what it has come to represent make it BEYOND rehabilitation. "Who cares?" was a poor choice of words. Bah.

Trying to rehab the swastika isn't just insulting. It betrays the people behind it as Nazi-sympathizers. Ugly bigots and would-be fascists who should be marginalized with a passion apropos to the crime, which is a monstrous crime requiring a lonnnnggg memory to keep THAT bullshit in check. Neo-nazis are forever banned from civilization. Period.

I'm saying "trash it" -- trash the swastika as a symbol it has been degraded as a beyond saving. I'm also saying that since it is a symbol - by definition, it is a symbol, and meant other things to other cultures before the Nazis... we can't change that - it is JUST a symbol. It isn't a person, plant or animal. It has no intrinsic value, so who's gonna cry for the poor old swastika if it has come to mean something repugnant? Not me, for one. I doubt the Hopi or Tibetans feel like the Nazi's version was anything but a ripoff. If only they could sue for trademark infringement.

In other words, I agree. There is no rehab for the symbol, and we should never forget what it means. As a society, we SHOULD, in my opinion, let all those dirty dogs lie where they be, BUT idiots like these 'rehab-the-swastika' people keep trying to reinvent history and catch a meme wave to Fox News at 10.

Paz.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
16. Yes, I did misunderstand.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jun 2012

Please accept my apology, daaron! You make a very good point. Thank you for the clarification.

PEACE!

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
12. You can say anything to anyone under the right conditions
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 08:28 PM
Jun 2012

In this case, the operational envelope for communication was extremely narrow.

Starboard Tack

(11,181 posts)
15. Truly a shame that such a great symbol was coopted by thugs.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jun 2012

Makes one wonder if the cross will ever be rehabilitated.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
18. On top of the Star of David? Flown over Jewish neighborhoods?
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jun 2012

Sorry, I am not getting "rehabilitation" here, I am getting "we're coming for you again!" Looks like a bit of "truth2power."

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