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MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:16 PM Nov 2018

Instructions on properly disciplining one's wife from Islam:

https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-ways-that-you-can-discipline-your-wife

Although beating of women is generally forbidden, Islam permits the beating of wives in a restricted and limited sense only as a final solution and acceptable valid reason when all else fails.

First stage: The stage of advice, counseling and warning against Allah's punishment. A husband must remind his wife of the importance of protecting his rights in Islam. This stage is a very kind and easy one. But, if this treatment does not work and proves to be ineffective, then the husband may resort to the next stage.

Second stage: To leave the wife's bed. Or, if one sleeps in the same bed with her, he will turn his back to her, not touch her, talk to her or have intercourse with her. This stage, as noticed, combines both strictness and kindness, although it is a very harsh practice on both. But, if this treatment does not work, then the husband may resort to the final stage of discipline explained below.

Third and final stage: Beating without hurting, breaking a bone, leaving black or blue marks on the body, and avoiding hitting the face or especially sensitive places at any cost. The purpose of beating her is only to discipline and never retaliation or with desire to hurt by any means. Islam forbids severe beating as punishment.


Somehow, that doesn't sound like a good approach to it. But, apparently it's the way recommended by Muhammad...

Ugh.
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. It's well established that this is Islam's traditional approach
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:58 PM
Nov 2018

You can find many resources online from Muslim clerics themselves.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
2. The Old Testament Has Different Advice on Wife Discipline
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:20 PM
Nov 2018
https://www.quora.com/Does-the-Bible-condone-beating-your-wife-as-a-means-of-discipline

The Bible condones stoning your wife if she isn't a virgin on your wedding night. See Deutoronomy 22. In fact, it's supposed to be a group activity- a public execution done by “the men of the city” on her father’s doorstep. Since the woman’s father, brothers and husband aren't explicitly excused from participating, they are thereby implicitly expected to participate. If you wanted to be legalistic about it, that's not really corporal punishment, or “beating your wife.” And since she wasn't a virgin, then the marriage is invalid and she's not really your wife.

Deutoronomy 22 also says that if a betrothed virgin is raped within the city walls, but nobody hears her cry out, then she shall be stoned to death (because, ya know, she was asking for it and liked it). If it happened outside the city, then her rapist shall be killed.

Deutoronomy 25 says that the hand of a woman who intercedes in a fight between her husband and another man must be cut off if she touched the other man’s “junk.” Again, that's not beating your wife, just chopping her hand off. “Show no mercy,” is what Moses says God says.

Deutoronomy 13 says that you must kill your wife if she tries to get you to worship any god but The Great Jehovah.


Yes, religion is all about kindness and gentleness, I see...

oldlibdem

(330 posts)
9. Any time I read some religious mumbo-jumbo like this I just shake my head in disbelief...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:08 PM
Nov 2018

If it happens here in America I sure hope the spouse calls the po-po.

Nitram

(22,890 posts)
10. Religious works often enshrine values and mores that were considered progressive at the time they
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:27 PM
Nov 2018

were recorded. All religions eventually catch up or lose popularity. Some conservative Evangelicals still believe that a wife is her husband's chattel, and that he has a duty to use corporal punishment on wife and children when "necessary." At one time, European and many other traditional societies considered this point of view to be "natural." In Japanese society, neither Judeo-Christian nor Moslem, this was once a given. Even in the Kpelle tribe of Liberia, among whom I lived for two years, this was the traditional point of view. They were animists.

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