Do one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eaters exist?

[Major Nikon]

Please provide proof for your answer.

[Iggo]

1. I have seen no compelling evidence for the existence of flying purple people eaters.

[Major Nikon]

3. Is it safe to assume your answer is no, but you can't provide proof?

[Iggo]

9. It's safe to say my reply is...

"I have seen no compelling evidence for the existence of flying purple people eaters."

[Bretton Garcia]

18. There.1) is no positive evidence for them.

Or 2) there is a great deal of evidence against them. Looking around, for centuries, we have not seen any. And 3) many similar tales proved false. And 4) many of their specific alleged attributes proved false too. I. e..their promises of" all" or "whatever" miracles we asked for, did not come true. Even as 5) their followers proved deadly and unworthy of our confidence.

All that adds up. To the very, very high probability - the near certainty, or even certainty - that they do not exist fully as advertised.

[Bretton Garcia]

16. But if you just have faith in them, they are real

And they will help you.

[Major Nikon]

19. Not to mention less invasive than some other placebos

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sham_surgery

[The Genealogist]

2. I've seen drawings and heard a song about one

Hey must exist!

[Major Nikon]

4. Your evidence is as solid as most mythologies.

[The Genealogist]

5. I see no more evidence for deities than I do for flying purple people eaters

Yet people expect me to believe in deities, bu not purple people eaters.. Quatsch, as they say in German.

[docgee]

6. We'll I was on DMT once and... eom.

[Arkansas Granny]

7. "Who wears short shorts?"

[Voltaire2]

8. It was an itsy bitsy teenie weenie yellow polka-dot bikini

[MineralMan]

10. Ain't There a Song About 'Em?

There's your proof, dammit!

[Major Nikon]

11. Voila!

[Bretton Garcia]

17. Not a "song"; a " hymn," a "psalm."

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Please try to respect our sacred "oral tradition."

The great OEOHFPPE is our sacred figure, our sacred belief. And should. be respected, and given special rights.

Just like all other beliefs.

And by the way, the great OEOAFPPE should never be called "ooof," or "Oaf," or even" Poop," as some very immature and disrespectful people do.

[underpants]

26. Written by Sheb Woolley - "Rawhide" "High Noon" & "The Outlaw Josie Wales"

Josey Wales

Also credited with the much used "Wilhem scream"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheb_Wooley

[Bretton Garcia]

33. It may seem merely human in origin...

.. but alleged authors were only human agents or vehicles for an inspiring divine - Purple - spirit, speaking through them, as mediums. Assuring their infallibility.

[underpants]

34. Well... yeah

There is that.

[AZ8theist]

12. OF COURSE they do.

One just needs to have "faith".

[Pendrench]

13. Hi Major Nikon - Thank you for posting this!

I remember listening to this song back in my "early years"

To answer your question: I am unable to provide proof that one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eaters exist.

To the larger question: I am also unable to provide proof that my concept of god exists.

Which I guess leads to the follow up question: Then why do I believe in a god - especially my concept of god?

To be honest, I'm sure a lot has to do with the fact that I was raised by parents who believed (and still believe) in a god. And I also attended 12 years of Catholic school, so that belief was reinforced during that time as well.

But over time I hope that my concept of god has evolved.

At this point in my life (53 years old) I still believe in a god, still pray, still go to mass every weekend - but I also appreciate the fact that others hold beliefs different than me - or do not believe in a god (or gods) at all.

In the end, I hope that I'm judged not so much by my beliefs, but by the actions that my beliefs inspire: to helps those less fortunate, to comfort those who are suffering, and to make a positive impact whenever and wherever possible.

Thank you again for posting this.

Wishing you well and peace.

Tim

[Major Nikon]

14. Thanks for your honest reply

The point is non-belief of one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eaters is no different than non-belief in deities. Both constitute a non-belief and neither requires proof, nor should such proof be expected.

Seems like a simple concept, but evidently some(not sayin’ you), have such an emotional attachment to their belief system they are unable to understand non-belief isn’t a belief. The abstract analogy is offered to help them divorce themselves from their emotionally distorted lens.

If you believe in one or more deities, more power to you and I will never positively assert you are wrong and I am right on the subject. I’ll just offer that non-belief isn’t the same as belief as far as standards of proof is concerned.

[Pendrench]

15. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post.

I greatly appreciate the opportunity to discuss interesting topics (such as this) with you, and the others in this group

Have a wonderful evening.

Tim

[edhopper]

20. I have certain belief

that they do not exist.

It is my faith that there are no OEOHFPPEs

[Bretton Garcia]

21. ?

It is hard to 1) just empirically, scientifically, prove the non-existences of something. But? There 2) are some things that can be known with certainty to be false, and even nonexistent, by use of the rules of formal logic.

So? Suppose we have 1) an alleged deity who says he is always truthful. Who 2) next, promises that next Tuesday, he will cause a real, actual, literal, physical giant purple egg to appear, floating above our own Wal-Mart store.

So 3) next Tuesday, we go to camp outside our Wal-Mart to watch; but no such thing happens.

From this, formal logic allows us to deduce that 4) our deity did not tell the truth. And therefore, 5) the particular alleged deity in question, who among other things always tells the truth, does not exist.

[Major Nikon]

22. All you really logically know from this is He is a liar

Then the apologists will simply claim what he actually said wasn't what he actually meant, as if they have some kind of magical power that tells them when the hocus pocus words are to be taken literally or not.

As far as whether a "god" or multiple "gods" exists greatly depends on how you define it. It's certainly possible one or more entities exist or have existed in the universe that have abilities we would consider magical or godlike. The more relevant question is assuming such entities exist or have existed, did they play any role in our creation and/or do they or have they intervened with human existence. The simplest answer is no, and reason demands we should assume this absent any evidence.

[Bretton Garcia]

24. Maybe. Though?

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We see from that 1) apologists are equivocating, playing word games. Using "weasel words". Which is known to be a mistake, an error, a form of falsehood, of lying, by formal logic.

And 2) to 102) when we've taken the time to add up not just one or two, but a few dozen, a hundred of the Bible's assertions, finally we've found that the Bible's cumulative description of God, contradicts itself,.and facts, dozens of times.

I think therefore that a book-length, logic-based exploration could effectively show that the notion that Christians have a perfect, consistent, truthful God, can be disproved.

Though it takes a long book; not a short one..

[edhopper]

32. My other ways of knowing

tell me that there are no OEOHFPPEs.

I don't need any other source to tell me it's true.

[Pope George Ringo II]

23. Of course they exist, and I have faith that they are mauve.

If anybody says they don't exist, or that they are another shade of purple, then death to the unbeliever!

[Bretton Garcia]

25. You are a person of very great faith.

[dameatball]

27. If I am the only one who has actually seen them should I be concerned??

[Bretton Garcia]

35. Heaven be praised !$!$ You are the foretold prophet $$$$

The reliable eyewitness!

[stonecutter357]

28. Purple People Eaters !

[DetlefK]

29. Yep. There's video.

Also, I see what you did there. Demanding proof for a claim?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

30. Don't forget their clergy here on earth

[Major Nikon]

31. Doesn't show it flying, so I'll have to take this with a heavy dose of skepticism

Still far more than we have for some myths.