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Related: About this forumChristianity Today: "The Biggest Loser in the Alabama Election"
An article from December 12.
No matter the outcome of todays special election in Alabama for a coveted US Senate seat, there is already one loser: Christian faith. When it comes to either matters of life and death or personal commitments of the human heart, no one will believe a word we say, perhaps for a generation. Christianitys integrity is severely tarnished.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2017/december-web-only/roy-moore-doug-jones-alabama-editorial.html
An interesting read, not because of what's in it, but what's not. You see, by driving thoughtful, decent people away from evangelical churches, the Evangelicals, by their stated beliefs, are likely condemning a tremendous number of people to eternal damnation by depriving them of their opportunity to hear the message that they need Jesus as their personal saviour.
Also, Evangelicals emphasize that every believer has a personal relationship with God and that prayer for comfort and guidance should be a part of every born-again person's life.
Neither of these things is mentioned in the article. It's like they can't even be bothered to pretend to believe their own theology.
Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)was a result of concentrating on the black vote in black churches, and everyone reports black women voters made all the difference.
When Democrats attack religion and faith with a broad brush of intolerance and divisiveness, they are attacking a significant number of Democrats.
Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)to antagonize believers, not only do a disservice to the Party, but are suspect as to why they do it.
Voltaire2
(13,194 posts)We must be all sorts of ruskie-troll-bots, amirite?
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)and say that we don't believe in god. And that religion isn't always a force for good.
Well, fuck that. I get to say what I think. It's kind of a hallmark of our country.
But, yeah, just keep pushing the atheists are Russian trolls. That kind of exclusive thinking isn't scary at all.
Sneederbunk
(14,308 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)I know a lot of theists liked it better when atheists were in the back of the bus and shut our mouth, but it's 2018 and you need to get used to the fact that a growing percentage of the population doesn't believe in a god. We aren't going anywhere.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)If the Republicans had put up even a marginally better candidate than the absolutely disgusting Roy Moore, they would have won in a landslide. You yourself told us how many Christian voters stayed home. Those people were (rightly) sickened enough by Moore that they refused to vote for him, but they just couldn't find it within themselves to vote against him. Why is that?
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)He assumes that Christians need to participate in politics as Christians, and impose their morality on the general public. But we are relearning what the founding fathers already knew, religion in politics is bad for religion and bad for politics.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)of separation of church and state - as long as it is their religion that is dominant, of course.
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)attend. Their "salvation" isn't at risk at all, assuming that such a thing even exists. It is not those thoughtful, decent people who are in danger. What is in danger is the survival of the mean-spirited, bigoted people who could support a Roy Moore for any public office. They are truly lost in their understanding.
I won't miss the conservative fundamentalist Christians if they disappear. I don't know anyone who would. Let them change. If they won't, then knock the dust of your shoes and move on. If they won't listen, move on to others.
PragmaticDem
(320 posts)Christianity not so much.