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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:39 PM Dec 2017

Banned Bible book of Jesus secret prophecies to his brother unearthed

The secret advice and prophecies Jesus gave his brother, James. It’s bound to be explosive stuff.
But the two books of the Apocalypse of James were rejected when the Emperor Constantine instructed his bishops to standardize the ascendant Christian religion.

Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, presented the approved books of the New Testament to the world amid much fanfare — and controversy — in 367 AD.
He was touted as having been touched by God: “Athanasius is one who can be trusted: he would not say anything that is not in accord with sacred scripture.”
His judgment was inviolate.

“No one may add to them and nothing may be taken away from them,” he wrote.
The Apocalypse of James was not among them.

We mostly know them from writings found among a collection known as the Nag Hammadi library in December 1945.
These were large terracotta vessels, stuffed with 13 scrolls, many still safely sealed against the elements.
They were believed deliberately buried during the fourth century to protect them from destruction.

... earlier this year, University of Texas at Austin biblical scholars discovered a fragment lost among Egypt Exploration Society archives at Oxford University.
It was in Greek. It was part of the First Apocalypse of James.

“To say that we were excited once we realized what we’d found is an understatement,” says assistant professor of religious studies Geoffrey Smith. “We never suspected that Greek fragments of the First Apocalypse of James survived from antiquity. But there they were, right in front of us.”

Read more, including what Jesus told James, at:
https://nypost.com/2017/12/01/banned-bible-book-of-jesus-secret-prophecies-to-his-brother-unearthed/

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Banned Bible book of Jesus secret prophecies to his brother unearthed (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 OP
Lots of writing were not included in the canon of the Bible. TexasProgresive Dec 2017 #1
Thanks for the links left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #2
Much was discarded as the biblical canon was created. MineralMan Dec 2017 #3
God directed the sorting out left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #4
Yah, well, OK then. MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
My older brother also told me ... left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #6
Sounds like your brother is a veritable fount of information. MineralMan Dec 2017 #7
Yes, he was full of it. left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #8
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2017 #9
Much of what was discarded was probably destroyed. Mariana Dec 2017 #10
Yes. There was no doubt some of that. MineralMan Dec 2017 #11
It is usually clear, when one reads the Nag Hammadi material, struggle4progress Dec 2017 #12

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Lots of writing were not included in the canon of the Bible.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 07:01 AM
Dec 2017

Some are worthwhile to study others not so much. All give an increased understanding of the life of the times. As it is there are no autographs of any of the books in the New Testament canon. They are all copies of copies. If this scroll is an autograph from the late first century that would be something special. Whether it should be included in the canon is a whole nother thang.

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short wiki articles on 1st and 2nd Apocalypse of James:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Apocalypse_of_James
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Apocalypse_of_James

I think the headline is a lot of hype.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
3. Much was discarded as the biblical canon was created.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:03 AM
Dec 2017

Why? Well, that's a dispute that has been going on for nearly 2000 years now. What we now know as the Bible is a pieced-together compilation of texts that supported the views of those who were making decisions on what to include and what to discard.

Much of what was discarded is very difficult to find in translation. Much of it is not available to scholars, either, who might be able to inform people of what is in those texts.

Some old men decided what to include and what not to include. Some old men decided what the Bible would say. It's an interesting process to learn about, but getting into the details is difficult and sometimes impossible.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. My older brother also told me ...
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 11:23 AM
Dec 2017

The marks I saw in the snow behind our farmhouse on Christmas morning was where Santa landed his sleigh,
being for some reason unable to land on our roof.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
10. Much of what was discarded was probably destroyed.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

Isn't that the usual thing that was done with heretical texts? Lest they pollute the minds of the faithful.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
11. Yes. There was no doubt some of that.
Sun Dec 3, 2017, 12:29 PM
Dec 2017

Other early scriptural documents still exist in archives here and there. Occasionally, a new one is discovered. Really serious people can find some of this stuff out there in publication, if they look for it.

There aren't that many such serious people, though. Not much of a market for that kind of thing, really.

struggle4progress

(118,301 posts)
12. It is usually clear, when one reads the Nag Hammadi material,
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 01:46 AM
Dec 2017

why the material didn't become part of the canon

Here's the (first) Apocalypse of James:

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/1ja.html

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