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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:22 PM Dec 2017

What Are Your Religious Beliefs?

That's a question I never ask anyone. I don't really care. It's really none of my business. I don't need to know what the people around me believe with regard to gods and the like. I can observe how they behave and treat others. That's all I need to understand about them.

Occasionally, someone asks me that question. I simply answer, "I have none." If they continue to question me, I'll tell them I'm an atheist. If they press further, I will simply walk away from the discussion.

I don't care what people choose to believe, unless they insist that I believe the same thing. Then, I will adamantly refuse to do that. If it continues, I will no longer have any truck with that person. Why would I?

Religion is OK with me, as long as it is a personal belief and doesn't get imposed on others. I won't ask. I don't care. It's what people do, not what they say, that matters. I do care about that.

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What Are Your Religious Beliefs? (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2017 OP
Why, Mineral Man, I believe you have perfectly expressed the Golden Rule! Glorfindel Dec 2017 #1
That simple statement of reciprocity is common to virtually every MineralMan Dec 2017 #4
For example: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #8
Exactly. Anyone who thinks about interpersonal relations MineralMan Dec 2017 #9
Jefferson had it right: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #2
Yes. A smart man, that Jefferson... MineralMan Dec 2017 #5
I second the motion Motley13 Dec 2017 #3
Atheist MaryMagdaline Dec 2017 #6
Yes. What all religions have in common regarding human MineralMan Dec 2017 #7
"Religion is OK with me, as long as it is a personal belief and doesn't get imposed on others" mitch96 Dec 2017 #10
"I have none" edhopper Dec 2017 #11
I don't volunteer the information either. MineralMan Dec 2017 #12
New York Pizza Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #13
I'm ecumenical when it comes to pizza. MineralMan Dec 2017 #14
And the LORD spake... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #15
Thou Shalt Dress Thy Pizza with the Lord's Toppings MineralMan Dec 2017 #16
"Thou shalt not craft thine pizza from the dough of the freezer..." Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #17
"And Lo! the Creator did expand the dough, tossing it artfully into the heavens." MineralMan Dec 2017 #18

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
1. Why, Mineral Man, I believe you have perfectly expressed the Golden Rule!
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:27 PM
Dec 2017

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you: do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets."

Matthew 7:12

Good for you. It's almost exactly the way I feel myself.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. That simple statement of reciprocity is common to virtually every
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:32 PM
Dec 2017

religion and philosophical system. Really, it's the only rule that needs to be followed. Always has been. That's why its so universally expressed.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
8. For example:
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:41 PM
Dec 2017

Buddhism: "Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful." Udana-Varga 5:18

Confucianism: "Try your best to treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself, and you will find that this is the shortest way to benevolence." Mencius VII.A.4

Hinduism: "This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you." Mahabharata 5:1517

Islam: "None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." Number 13 of Imam "Al-Nawawi's Forty Hadiths."

Judaism: "What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man. This is the law: all the rest is commentary." Talmud, Shabbat 31a.



MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Exactly. Anyone who thinks about interpersonal relations
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:52 PM
Dec 2017

would discover that rule. Sadly, too many people make the mistake of believing that religions are about what happens when you die, instead of looking within that religion for advice about what to do while you live. It's funny, really, but failing to do that has led to much sadness, despair and cruelty during human history.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
2. Jefferson had it right:
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:30 PM
Dec 2017

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
6. Atheist
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:36 PM
Dec 2017

With strong Catholic cultural leanings. Sermon on the Mount. Jesus is my prophet. Love Christian mythology and iconography.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Yes. What all religions have in common regarding human
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:39 PM
Dec 2017

interactions makes a pretty darned good basis for living. As I studied various religions on my path to atheism, that's what I learned. If you drop all of the deity nonsense and look at guidelines for living in society, they all pretty much cover the same ground.

That's all one needs, really.

mitch96

(13,907 posts)
10. "Religion is OK with me, as long as it is a personal belief and doesn't get imposed on others"
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 01:23 PM
Dec 2017

Agreed..
I don't hang a moniker around my neck though.. Most people get confused with atheist,agnostic deist.
If they must know "what are you" I just say I believe in a personal god but not any organized religion.. That usually sends them away happy and off my back...
m

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
12. I don't volunteer the information either.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 08:40 PM
Dec 2017

Unless, of course, I'm in a place where religion is the topic. I have friends who are ministers and pastors. We have discussions from time to time.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
13. New York Pizza
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:36 AM
Dec 2017

Way better than that Chicago shit. "Ohhh, look at me, I found a way to eat lasagna with my hands and will call it pizza"... HERESY!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. I'm ecumenical when it comes to pizza.
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:38 AM
Dec 2017

As long as the toppings are within sensible boundaries, I will eat them all.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
15. And the LORD spake...
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:43 AM
Dec 2017

..."Thou shalt not top not thine pizza with more than three toppings, nor shalt thou top thine pizza with more than one meat. For the LORD favors quality over abundance. AMEN."

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Thou Shalt Dress Thy Pizza with the Lord's Toppings
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:47 AM
Dec 2017

"Upon the base of tomato-based sauce shalt thou place only sausage, black olives and the blessed anchovy fish. Then, though mayest dine upon thy meal with the Lord's blessing." -Antonio 6:12

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
17. "Thou shalt not craft thine pizza from the dough of the freezer..."
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:53 AM
Dec 2017

"...for the dough of the freezer is an abomination in the eyes of the LORD." - Bufala 13:10

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. "And Lo! the Creator did expand the dough, tossing it artfully into the heavens."
Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:56 AM
Dec 2017

"Go thou and do likewise."

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