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Related: About this forumIt seems there is reason and evidence that Christianity is true
https://scottmsullivan.clickfunnels.com/c101-trial?ims=Free-C101-Trial"The Christ 101: How To Defend The Faith With Reason and Evidence Program"
LEARN THE REASONS AND EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. Everything you need is right here.
How to show why the Christian faith is TRUE, USING REASON AND EVIDENCE (NOT FAITH)
How to SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT about what faith really is and why faith in Christ is not in any way a Santa Claus for grownups
How to intelligently articulate a case that shows GOD HAS ACTED IN HUMAN HISTORY, and in so doing, has left evidence of this activity - evidence that is open to rational investigation and argument.
How to show someone that there is TRUTH in RELIGIOUS MATTERS (all religions are NOT true)
How to REFUTE the claim that believing in miracles is irrational or unscientific
How to give THREE POWERFUL ARGUMENTS that show Jesus was in fact the Divine Being he claimed to be, and why the convergence of these arguments provide the solid intellectual grounds upon which an act of faith is rationally justified
How to EXPOSE GARBAGE like Theres no evidence that Jesus ever existed and other such nonsense.
How to DEBUNK the assertion that the Bible is just a bunch of made up stories
How to TURN THE TABLES on the skeptic and show them that, far from faith in Christ being foolish, to not believe in Jesus is the most unreasonable and foolish thing one can do
Those that know me here, know the intent of my post.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)ExciteBike66
(2,358 posts)at least their heart is in the right place!
disclaimer: I did not click the link...
edhopper
(33,587 posts)though it is pretty funny.
ExciteBike66
(2,358 posts)Hokie
(4,288 posts)...especially if it is a good cabernet sauvignon or pinot noir.
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)Have seen no signs of that. Every day that Cheney lives and innocents die disproves that theory!
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)The priests, nuns, Sunday school teachers and other church "experts" couldn't answer any of my perfectly reasonable questions, so they finally gave up on me.
Happily, my parents were supportive and gave me the space to find my own way.
I mean, simple things like when they say "Thank god that tornado didn't kill my family." but never say "Blame God that tornado killed my neighbor's family."
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...yet another example of fools and money.
nil desperandum
(654 posts)Only $67 dollars for all those "Doctors" to teach you everything you need to know about defending your religion from naysayers.
Sounds like a deal at twice the price!
If you'll believe in fairy tales I suppose this sounds like a real plan.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)if it prevents your children from learning something at college.
Make sure their minds are closed before they go.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)After all, they are told ridiculous stories, but unlike the other crazy nursery rhymes they are told, they are also told that these ridiculous stories are true. No wonder they are so easy to fool when it comes to televangelists and hucksters eager to take their money.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)This is the best dramatic music ever
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)Do they have Oompa Loompas?
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)It's Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory, after all. Says so on the sign.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I am not trying nor will I ever try to convert someone so I just don't feel the need to prove my faith.
My faith is just there and will never go away.
Htom Sirveaux
(1,242 posts)Or is the Second Coming more like a metaphor for Christians being Jesus by acting like he would want you to? Or maybe a different interpretation?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)EvilAL
(1,437 posts)his return would be within the lifetime of some of his apostles, did he mean it?
He didn't return within the timeframe he said he would. Why would you believe he'll show up when he didn't say he would?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)And none of it was written by Jesus. I believe He will come back one day but I don't think it will be in my lifetime either.
EvilAL
(1,437 posts)If you believe he's coming back, you base that off what he said in the bible. He gives a time line in the bible for his return, just not a specific date or time.
There's no contradiction there.
He doesn't say he'll be back next Tuesday, but that some of his buddies will still be alive when he does come back.
If you can't trust the bible for what jesus said what left is there to trust or believe is true. There is absolutely nothing in there that says he'll be back in 2000 years.. he said when he'd be back.. since he didn't come back people continue to wait, even though the bible was perfectly wrong about it.
At what point does it just become believing he's coming back because you just want to believe it?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Faith is tradition and personal opinion. Let me just say unlike Evangelicals, the second coming is not a huge part of my faith. My faith is more about the here and now and living life to the fullest.
My idea of the second coming is more on the lines of Jesus is coming back to say you are screwing up my Dad's creation so humanity is going bye bye now. I think the Earth continues without us.
Again these are just ideas. Jesus promised he would come back in glory, not weakness. What that means in all honesty I do not know, and to be honest is not something I really think about.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The ginormous fonts in different colours, caps and bolded text... the hyperbole is so over the top it's the internet version of a cheesy infomercial.
OH NOES!!! NOT THE ATHEIST AT WORK!!!
Did you read the testimonials?
Hes the yoked out & buffed out version of Peter Kreeft. This brother needs some exposure. His presentations are going to take the Catholic Church by storm. He is the real deal.
Jesse Romero
Noted public speaker, EWTN radio host, and evangelist
Websites like this are almost indistinguishable from satire.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)He did not try to convert me and I returned the favor.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I think Jesse is a little too obsessed with how tough, physical and buffed out Scott is.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I hope someday to also go to the Creation Museum. But As an exercise in self-restraint I hope to not laugh.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)edhopper
(33,587 posts)I refuse to give that idiot a dime.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)what people will fall for.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Where you are, that is.
I am over here.
Warpy
(111,273 posts)and tell them to forget all about college so they can get into heaven! The evidence is clear!
Dilute! Dilute! Dilute!
Oops, that was Dr. Bronner, kind of confusing, this website is the same style as his labels.
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)no evidence of that. Explain Dick Cheney.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Girard442
(6,075 posts)...and Herbert W. Armstrong. Send your cards and letters to THE WORRRLD TOMORROW, Post Office Box 111, Pasadena, California.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Remember Caesar...you'll be demo-ted...you'll be depor-ted...cru-ci-fy him.
(Oooh, scary music!)
Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)My view is that, by the way, even the Bible often backs science ... even over its own occasional emphasis on Faith. And even over most of its own holy men.
So it wouldn't be quite right to say that all of Christianity is scientific. Only parts of it are, at best.
And? Those parts ultimately overthrow the rest. Overthrowing ... Faith. And therefore overthrowing religion as most people think of it.
More simply? Science, Reason, Logic, eventually defeat Religion.