Religious conflict on the rise in French workplace, study finds

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© Mohammed Salem / Reuters

Published time: 23 Sep, 2016 11:17
Edited time: 23 Sep, 2016 13:13

The presence of religion in workplaces is rising in France, with 65 percent of employees saying they’ve noticed it, according to new research.

The study was published on Thursday by the Observatory for Religion in the Workplace (OFRE) and the Randstad Institute. A total of 1,405 people participated, and all religions were taken into account.

"The 2016 survey by Randstad Institute and OFRE shows a significant increase of religion in business,” says Laurent Morestain, secretary general of the Randstad France group and president of the Randstad Institute for Equal Opportunities and Sustainable Development.

Last year, the same survey showed 50 percent, so the jump is significant.

https://www.rt.com/news/360380-france-religion-workplace-survey/

[SusanCalvin]

1. The title does not match the excerpt. nt

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2. Read on.

Nevertheless, religion can lead to some serious disagreements, too, the survey found – conflicts were up from 6 percent in 2014 to 9 percent this year.

"Issues related to the place of religions and religious attitudes in society have become sensitive in recent years. Therefore, behaviors and situations with a direct or indirect religious dimension are more and more quickly identified," the authors of the study said, as quoted by French media outlet Le Telegramme.

The cause of conflict in some instances was identified as men refusing to work with female bosses, with this reported in 4 percent of the cases – while 1 percent refused outright to work with someone of a different religion.

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3. what if my religion opposes talking to people hiding their faces because men want them to? nt

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4. Do you know of any?

[Skittles]

5. that's just rational thought

some people just find misogyny unsettling, not matter what the "reason"

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6. More speculation than thought on actual facts.

[Skittles]

7. women have fought long and hard for their rights

seeing it going backwards is not easy

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10. Do you think these women have the right to wear that clothing?

[Skittles]

11. of course they have the "right"

but do not even try telling me it is not misogyny - WHY do only the women cover up?

*DONE HERE* because I have said before, I DETEST WASTING MY TIME

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12. You shouldn't start what you can't finish.

Leaving in a huff is a piss-poor argument.

[SusanCalvin]

14. Since you mention it,

I would like to see a guy in one of those things, just for grins.

You're right - if only women do it, even by "choice," that's pretty good circumstantial evidence.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

28. No one should have a right to cover his/her face in public.

You want to wear a black sack? Fine.

You want to cover your head with a black sack or a lovely hijab? Fine.

You want to cover your arms, legs, and feet? Great.

Face coverings should be against the law, however.

I live in a very diverse area, and see women in hijab all the time. NO BIG DEAL.

However, when I see someone with a face covering I feel repulsed. It goes against everything I believe. Women shouldn't be forced to hide in this world. It's sick.

[bettyellen]

15. Same way that i think they have a right to slap themselves silly.

Doesn't mean I think it is a good thing to be treated with those customs or attitudes. Men should take responsibility for their own feelings and not feel entitled to force women to deal with them.

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17. Are you judging what other women choose?

Or are you simply asserting if women do things that offend you, men should "take responsibility" for that?

[bettyellen]

18. When people are pressured under threat of losing family or physical harm don't call it a choice....

And I have known that to be the case sometimes.
Yeah I judge the more orthodox practitioners in many religions when they subjugate women on the regular and limit their opportunities and freedom. Fuck yeah I judge that harshly.

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22. Did you think any woman in that video is under threat of losing family or physical harm?

Or are you just assuming that because you don't like their religion or what they're wearing?

[bettyellen]

23. I know that families abandon and or punish women for not complying- even in modern cities.

You'd have to be one strong cookie to abandon your entire family upon adulthood because of traditions you have grown accustomed to your entire life. The ones that do often find their families completely reject them- are you saying that is NOT intense pressure to conform? I completely disagree.

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24. I'll ask again. Do you think this video supports your opinion?

[bettyellen]

25. I've had my opinion (based on many sources) for years. You let one dumb video inform you? Why?

Because it shows you what you want to see?

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26. That's a two-way street. Do you reject the video because it shows you what you don't want to see?

[bettyellen]

27. No but it's one small data point, to me less valuable than many others.

Why- what do you think this video "proves"?

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29. It is one data point among many, including you anecdotes.

I don't think the video proves anything more than you opinion and anecdotes prove anything.

Other than that a sweeping condemnation of women who are hijabis is both false and wrong.

[ZombieHorde]

8. My stepdad used to tell me

we have enough religion to hate each other but no enough to love each other.

[Skittles]

9. CORRECT

it certainly costs us WAY MORE than it is worth

[SusanCalvin]

13. Yep.

It had its place when people were trying to explain things they had no means to understand at the time. Side effect: It was a handy-dandy means of control.

[Skittles]

16. it is proof you can make people believe anything

is it any wonder propaganda is so effective?

[bettyellen]

19. One Patagonian tribe had coming of age rituals where they met the evil spirits that had threatened

The tribe. And they told them Ha! It's only us dudes wearing elaborate masks and we do this to keep the women in line. And if you tell a single woman? We will kill them all except a baby too young to understand, and restart the tribe with her children. They claimed they had done it before.

[Skittles]

20. it's strange how all made up stuff includes a big dose of misgoyny

.....just like in REAL LIFE

[bettyellen]

21. You got that right. It's a fact free zone, so it is....

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30. This was a big part of our right's marketing

My first day of actual clockin in work, bagging groceries at a Wynn-Dixie, my stepfather sat me down and said "there are two things you never talk about at work, politics and religion".

The right foisted religion into everyone's faces and with the advent of the fax machine started "blast faxes" of water cooler talking points into workplaces. Repetition repitition repitition.