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Viva_Daddy

(785 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:26 PM Apr 2016

Can you really rely on the Bible?

The problem with the Old Testament is that it was written in Hebrew, which uses no vowels. When the Jews were in Babylonian captivity, they stopped speaking Hebrew and began to speak Aramaic. When they “translated” the Old Testament into Greek (the Septuagint) in about the 2nd Century BC, they no longer understood the older Hebrew and many mistakes were made. When the Old Testament received its “final translation” by the Masoretic Rabbis in the Middle Ages, they mistakenly inserted Arabic vowels into the Hebrew words and, as a result, this lead to many, many mistakes.

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Can you really rely on the Bible? (Original Post) Viva_Daddy Apr 2016 OP
and that's EdwardBernays Apr 2016 #1
Rely on it for what? merrily Apr 2016 #2
That's my question too........nt 2naSalit Apr 2016 #4
I rely on its being in hotel rooms for no good reason. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #3
There's also some translation errors in the NT Major Nikon Apr 2016 #8
Even if there were no translation or transcription errors... Silent3 Apr 2016 #5
Yes. Iggo Apr 2016 #6
Also very dependable as a monitor stand. n/t trotsky Apr 2016 #7
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. I rely on its being in hotel rooms for no good reason.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

I rely on craven politicians across both parties pretending they believe in the nonsense within.

By the way the idiocy in the NT doesn't have this problem. It's brand of idiocy cannot fall back on mistranslation across ancient languages as a defense, all the books were written in greek (odd, as the main characters would have been speaking in aramaic, but never mind that) and we managed to keep a handle on greek down to the current era.

But back to the torah, it being passover season again, even with massive mistranslation, that story still is mind boggling nonsense. I will soon once again sit at a table with otherwise reasonable people casually celebrating the genocide of little children and prattling on about how a bunch of goat herders taught the already ancient civ of Egypt the secrets of grain storage. That ain't a vowel problem.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. There's also some translation errors in the NT
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

Some of the errors are in the earliest forms of the gospels and some are from English translations. None of the canonical gospels were written by those in which they are attributed.

Silent3

(15,219 posts)
5. Even if there were no translation or transcription errors...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:43 PM
Apr 2016

...I still wouldn't rely on Biblical text as anything other than an historic record of stories people used to tell and human-authored rules of conduct. There's no good reason to assume that the original words would be any more insightful or divine than subsequent corruptions and mutations of those words.

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