Where are all the Church leaders speaking out about the Refugees?

[edhopper]

Why aren't I seeing the heads of all the churches these GOP assholes go to speaking out about the compassion and calm needed in this mess.

I am sure a few have, but for the most part I don't see an effort by any Churches to stop the anti-Muslim, anti- Refugees rhetoric.

They need to shame these hollier-than-thou idiots.

Especially the more fundamentalist and conservative churches the GOP leans to.

(the Pope has been pretty good on this)

[AtheistCrusader]

1. It appears the moderate christian leaders have been squelched out by the signal to noise ratio.

[edhopper]

2. So the media

chooses to ignore the church leaders in favor of the asshole GOP bigots?

[AtheistCrusader]

9. No, I think there is simply more of them. American religion is largely conservative.

So it follows they will get a lot of air time for this sort of issue, even though it is also political.

[hedgehog]

3. Here

Episcopal Church Presiding Bishop and Primate Michael B. Curry addresses the current Syrian refugee crisis:



“Be not afraid!”
.....
In the Book of Leviticus, God says to the people of Israel that, “the foreigner who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the foreigner as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt.” Accordingly, we welcome the stranger. We love our neighbor. The Episcopal Church has long been committed to resettling refugees in our own communities fleeing violence and persecution.

The Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society, through its Episcopal Migration Ministries service, works with dioceses and congregations, and the United States government, to settle refugees in communities across this great country. The Episcopal Church has been engaged in this ministry for more than 75 years. We will not let the nightmare this world often is keep us from carrying out the words of Jesus who told us to be a neighbor to those in need.

Refugees from places like Syria seek to escape the precise same ideological and religious extremism that gave birth to the attacks in Paris. They seek entry into our communities because their lives are imprisoned by daily fear for their existence. Just as Jesus bids us not to be afraid, we must, in turn, pass those words of comfort to those who turn to us for help.



http://www.episcopalchurch.org/posts/publicaffairs/episcopal-presiding-bishop-michael-curry-addresses-syrian-refugee-crisis-%E2%80%9Cbe-not

[edhopper]

4. No offense

but do you think a blog post on a website is enough to counter the barrage of shit from the Repuke politicians inundating the airwaves.

[trotsky]

5. Where's Pope Awesome threatening to withhold communion from the Catholic politicians?

Must be busy washing feet or calling marriage equality the world of Satan, I guess.

[msongs]

6. if this batch of immigrants was christian there would be parades of welcome nt

[cleanhippie]

7. They'd need to be the right kind of xtian.

[Igel]

8. To what end?

We've starting turning back hordes of refugees in the last week?

We've cancelled plans to settle them in the US?

Are we talking about refugees fresh from Aleppo? Or refugees who just got tired of living in Lebanon and Jordan for the last 2-3 years and want to move to a place where they can build a future? Or the "Syrian refugees" from elsewhere, Afghanistan or Iraq or Africa?

So far nobody's been affected. That's part of the non-problem. It's all words, and there's no great impulse to protect the reputation of a whole class of people.

[edhopper]

10. Did you not notice

the veto proof vote in the House yesterday?

Do you not think the GOP will continue to use this as a campaign theme?

[Fumesucker]

11. Trump ~is~ calling for some rather unfortunate measures, special ID cards and such

One would hope that religious leaders could recognize such measures as being opposed to religious freedom.

[Yorktown]

12. I couldn't care less about what believers in Mr Jesus 'think'

But the uncomfortable fact as it stands is that, as of now, American Muslims are 50% to support Sharia:

(I know, RW source, but that's my first relevant google hit)

The Center for Security Policy (CSP) has released the results of a poll showing alarmingly high levels of support for sharia law and violence among the American Muslim community.

According to the nationwide survey, "significant minorities embrace supremacist notions that could pose a threat to America's security and its constitutional form of government."

A majority (51 percent) of Muslims surveyed said they "should have the choice of being governed according to shariah."

Almost 30 percent of American Muslims believe it is legitimate to use violence "against those that insult the prophet Muhammad, the Qur'an, or Islamic faith."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/06/poll_shows_high_levels_of_support_for_shariah_law_and_violence_among_american_muslims.html#ixzz3s5jsHc1f

An influx of people from the religiously-brainwashed area of the Middle East should be considered worrying by people who defend gender equality and freedom of gender assignment. Not to mention the right to be an unbeliever.

'American Exceptionalism" has always been RW navel-gazing myopia. Worldwide ideological wars won't be stopped by the Atlantic Ocean.

[edhopper]

13. Because 10,000 refugees

will bring Shariah law here?

I can't find any verification of that poll outside the RW echo chamber.

[Yorktown]

14. 10,000 refugees?

First, should the US take only 10,000 refugees, that would be a laughably token gesture.
The EU is going to take in a few millions.

Second, the figure I heard was 70,000.

Third, numbers aside, political courage should require to ask the 800 pound gorilla question:
should people be welcomed without clearly putting out to them that should they wish to come in, they will have to change their beliefs.

Kill-the-gays Sharia is NOT compatible with the liberties which have been so long in gaining.

For how long has there been marriage equality in the US?
For how long have the hadiths condemned gays to death?
Which ideology has left the longer footprint?

One can't just be generous in the here and now without thinking ahead.


As for the validity of the poll, here is the original poll:
https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/02/the-american-public-understand-islamic-supremacism-better-than-their-leaders-doesnt-want-it-here/

It is coherent with poll to the same effect taken in Britain
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

In the presence of coherent US UK data consistent with the opinions preached in Muslim countries, I can only assume this to be the base of discussion while waiting for other data.

[LeftishBrit]

15. I don't know about American church leaders, but the Archbishop of Canterbury has spoken out quite

strongly; and has offered to house refugees at his official residence at Lambeth Palace.

As you say, the Pope has been good on the issue.