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Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:57 PM Nov 2015

Where do you fall on the spectrum of belief?

Regardless of what our personal feelings are about belief, we all fall somewhere on the line. This is purely voluntary, and is not meant to be a call out, but more informative of the theological makeup of belief and non belief. It is flawed by nature and I'm going to limit it to 5 general options. If you don't feel it covers you please select other and write in what you feel and why.


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Gnostic Theist
0 (0%)
Agnostic Theist
0 (0%)
Agnostic Atheist
19 (95%)
Gnostic Atheist
1 (5%)
Other (explain)
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Where do you fall on the spectrum of belief? (Original Post) Lordquinton Nov 2015 OP
Actually I'm an obnoxious atheist but there wasn't a box for that. nt Laffy Kat Nov 2015 #1
LOL Kalidurga Nov 2015 #2
Considering that Theism is about belief and Gnostcism is about knowledge... cleanhippie Nov 2015 #4
With so many on DU seemingly unable to accept that Agnostic and Atheist are mutually exclusive... cleanhippie Nov 2015 #3
Does Gnostic Atheist mean edhopper Nov 2015 #5
100% know there is no god Lordquinton Nov 2015 #9
Actually... gcomeau Nov 2015 #10
Answer A: I am not Gnostic edhopper Nov 2015 #12
I'm using it in the common vernacular for this poll Lordquinton Nov 2015 #13
I said Agnostic Atheist... FiveGoodMen Nov 2015 #6
+1 F4lconF16 Nov 2015 #14
I think most Atheists are where you are NastyRiffraff Nov 2015 #17
I think that, considering the vastness of the universe, there are things out there that we OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2015 #7
agnostic. period. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2015 #8
That's only answering one axis of the spectrum... -eom gcomeau Nov 2015 #11
Apathetic Atheist. mr blur Nov 2015 #15
Ooohhh...I like it... NeoGreen Nov 2015 #21
I know there are pleanty of theists on this site Lordquinton Nov 2015 #16
Perhaps struggling to decide... gcomeau Nov 2015 #18
Those are the fun ones. Iggo Nov 2015 #20
Way, way, way to the left. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2015 #19

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. LOL
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:59 PM
Nov 2015

Gnostic Atheist. Someone explained that to me and I was like wait wut. Yes it does describe me, but I don't think that it is actually the same as being an Atheist. The position of saying we can't know either way to me isn't really Atheism which is why I don't call myself an atheist. I have not determined that there was no such thing as a prime mover, yet I think it is very very unlikely.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
4. Considering that Theism is about belief and Gnostcism is about knowledge...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:05 PM
Nov 2015

You'd be right that 'knowing' isn't about atheism at all.

gnostic= know
Agnostic= don't know

Theist=believe
Atheist= don't believe


The terms are mutually exclusive.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
3. With so many on DU seemingly unable to accept that Agnostic and Atheist are mutually exclusive...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

Prepare to get flamed for it.

edhopper

(33,591 posts)
5. Does Gnostic Atheist mean
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

I am pretty sure there is no God and all our knowledge points to there not being one?

Or do I have to KNOW 100% there is no God?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
9. 100% know there is no god
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:28 PM
Nov 2015

And gnostic theist is 100% there is a God.

That 1% saying that we can't rule it out, buat can safely disregard it along with all the other myths is still agnostic. Even Dawkins falls on that with the addition that he could be easily convinced that God, or gods exist with just one solid piece of evidence.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
10. Actually...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:37 PM
Nov 2015

It just means you believe it CAN be known whether or not there is a God. That acquiring such knowledge is possible.

You don't have to claim actually TO know just at the moment., contrary to popular misconceptions.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
13. I'm using it in the common vernacular for this poll
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 09:02 PM
Nov 2015

So know for sure, don't know for sure kinda thing, else it gts co.plicated and fights break out, which was not the intent here.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
6. I said Agnostic Atheist...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:18 PM
Nov 2015

...because, technically, I can't prove -- even to myself -- that there's nothing out there we MIGHT call a god if we met it.

In regard to all of the gods that have been proposed thus far, I'm a full-blown atheist.

I think all the stories that have been told are completely nuts. (And more than a little bit evil)

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
14. +1
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 04:01 PM
Nov 2015

Can't prove that a god is impossible, but we can pretty easily prove the human gods so far aren't real.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
17. I think most Atheists are where you are
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:43 PM
Nov 2015

I know I am. Unlike believers, who are so sure their god exists and everybody had better worship him/her/it, most Atheists take the scientific view that according to all available evidence, there probably is no god. However, if credible evidence is ever presented, I'd be very willing to look at it, and be convinced if it holds up to testing, peer review, etc.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
7. I think that, considering the vastness of the universe, there are things out there that we
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:19 PM
Nov 2015

don't and can't understand, but, some guy with a beard in the sky? Really?

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
18. Perhaps struggling to decide...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:24 PM
Nov 2015

...whether it's worse to be an agnostic theist and admit room for doubt in their conclusions, or worse to claim gnostic theism and then have to defend the position.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
20. Those are the fun ones.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:53 PM
Nov 2015

The ones who want you to have an open mind, but are afraid to have one themselves.

One of our regulars told me s/he couldn't even imagine (or admit to imagining, I imagine) for the sake of argument that his/her deity did not exist.

I felt bad.

Kind of.

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